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Bill;
Not up enough on the NID's to answer your other questions, but; there was an overlap in production of the Flues & NID, but not in SN's. The 425,000 SN was set far enough ahead to eliminate the Flues #'s. As I recall they never reached 400,000. The pins you mention would be the cocking indicators. I believe the Star is simply a variant found on field grades but others can give you better info on this than I. If in good condition will make a good solid shooter.

From 425000 on up were NIDs. The stars were found on the Field Grade from 1928/9 to 1935. The Field grade had the roll stamped dog and company name on the sides of the receiver as well though. The Grade 1 also had the stars, but some bold floral engraving.

Sounds like a field grade NID. Yes........those pins are cocking indicators.

The field grade NIDs came in 3 variations. The first, from '26 to '29 had the snail horn cocking indicators and the rolled on setter. The second or Star "Grade" kept the indicators and Setter, added the Stars, and lengthened the fore end. It was produced from '29 to '34 or '35. The last version of the field NID lost both the dog and the indicators,(as well as the deely fore-end latch and stars) and added line engraving and stippleing behind the detinators. They're all good modern guns...Geo

It's the real thing...a star grade NID. Yes, those are cocking indicators. Those aren't the things I would be concerned with. Many of these guns were altered in some way shape or fashion: chokes reamed, barrels cut, stocks modified, etc..

If these areas pass inspection, you have yourself a pretty nice gun.

Hi Fellas:

This probably only confuses the chronology, but I have an Ithaca NID 20 ga. (ser. #443,XXX). This gun is a field grade with cocking indicators as you would expect. It also has the usual field grade ingraving with the setter, etc, but it also has the "star" engraving on the frame as found on the later field grades. According to the records, this gun was manufactured in 1927. Isn't this a little earlier than we have been talking about finding the "star" grades. This gun also has twin ivory beads, 26" bbls., choked imp. cyl. and mod. It is a very sweet little 20 ga.

Take care,

Ed Pirie
West Topsham, Vermont

I know exactly what you mean Ed when you say "very sweet little 20 gauge" NID, mine is a 16 gauge, slightly over 6lbs, a 13 3/4" LOP and fits me like a glove, It was my Uncle's gun, my no good for nothing OLDER Brother got my Dad's LC Smith, but that's okay I like the NID better because it fits me better. What burns me is my older brother doesn't hunt birds only deer so it sits in his gun cabinet.
All the best to you and yours Ed

I examined the gun last night. It does have a long forearm with lever to remove. Chokes are mod and full, 30' barrels. 1' pad added to give about 14 1/2" LOP. Double triggers I don't think it is original finish. The blue is too bright, almost looks torched. If a refinish, it was done before the grandfather died. Wood is very good, forearm has a small crack by the escutcheon for the lever. Barrels are dirty but, no nicks or dent's. I did not dee any setters on the action, only the "stars". I am going to hold off on buying. I still think the action must have been polished enough to eliminate the setters. I haven't heard that they were ever made with just the "stars" on the action.

Bill

My NID Sn 456190 has just stars on the action.

I think that is the usual dress of the Star variation.

Regards

GKT

Any opinions? Was an NID ever made without the setters? There is no evidence anything was polished. The lettering is there. The side panel edges on the stock are nice and sharp, and fit the action very very well. The lines making the "stars" on the action are very well defined, and don't appear to have been polished. I just don't know about the missimg Setters. The price I am being quoted is quite reasonable for the condtion, even if the finish has been redone. It would be a very nice shooter.

Bill