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Check this out. and they are also available in other calibers.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=313009664

kinda strange that the test target in that gunbroker ad printed identical to the one in this Vernon Carrey website photo.

http://www.verney-carron.us/Gallery/Verney-Carron-Sagittaire-O-U-Rifle-9.3x74R

nice little gun though and available in 8x57R.

actually it's the same exact gun.

Rather than simply available in 8x57R, it should probably be listed as available in 8x57JRS (.323 diameter bullet), to avoid confusion with the 8x57JR (.318 diameter bullet). Ammunition for both is available in France, and elsewhere in Europe and should not be confused. The JRS version is normally the cartridge that rifles are currently being manufactured for.

I'm considering this in 8x57JRS.

Looks like an outstanding rifle.

The 8x57JRS is a well-respected and widely-used cartridge in Europe, but there is only a very limited selection of factory ammumition available in the US. A recent online check found only Sellier and Belliot.

Cabellas in Hamburg, PA has had a Browning O/U in 8x57JRS for sale online for a year or more. It would give you another data point.

I did a search for ammo too. Slim pickens but as I'm looking for a smallish caliber double and It would be nice to have a rimmed cartridge there isn't a lot of choice that I can see. I haven't reloaded in decades but I still have all the equipment except the 8x57JRS dies and brass. There is a nice basic Merkel in the same caliber I looked at too which is at a lower cost, probably a better deal but having a few superposed shotguns I'm thinking it would be a natural fit for me.

If I were a handloader, the 8x57JRS would be my first choice "hands-down" for a double rifle.

Checking the online double rifles for sale in France recently, I found at least as many, if not more, in 8x57JRS, rather than 9.3x74R. They are used mainly for shooting driven wild boar, pretty tough to stop.

devrep,
You just use normal 8mm Mauser dies,with appropriate shell holder. 8x57IRS is a dream to load for,and you are likely to need to load your own, unless you can buy up a "pile" of the same ammo used to regulate the rifle.
Mike

Winchester is now selling 8X57JRS 195 gr Power Point ammunition at an attractive price. Midway has it listed as in stock. Probably others have it as well