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Robin Brown kindly (and very promptly) responded to my inquiry and confirmed that the gun in question (the second photo above) "is by A A Brown and does not have a screw grip, it is built on our own action with Scott spindle leverwork plus replaceable hinge pin." He also confirmed that AA Brown "never made a gun using a W&S action so there is not in existence a genuine A A Brown with screw grip."
So, in conclusion:
1. As Dig said, AA Brown did not use W&S actions for their boxlocks, so none of their boxlocks will have a Webley Screw Grip. 2. Webley Screw Grips are indicated by the shape of the top lever, not the barrel extension.
I will leave to others to sort out if any apologies are necessary, but should clarify that Lovel did not advertise this gun as a Webley Screw Grip and it was only after I purchased the gun in response to my inquiry that they told me it was a Webley Screw Grip.
Last edited by Doverham; 09/27/12 10:00 AM.
Such a long, long time to be gone, and a short time to be there.
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Hopefully gunman can confirm this but this is what I believe is a Webley Screw Grip action top lever: If you think this is a Webley screw grip action.....I've got an opening in my hunting club in Death Valley (only 100 pounds).
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Thank you Doverham, now we are getting somewhere.
Could someone please answer the following:
In reference to the gun Doverham purchased from Lovel & is now confirmed to be built by AA Brown, was this type of 3rd bite used exclusively by AA Brown or was it commonly used by other makers & suppliers of actions to the trade & what is the proper name for this style of 3rd bite?
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If you think this is a Webley screw grip action.....I've got an opening in my hunting club in Death Valley (only 100 pounds). Actually, I said it has "a Webley Screw Grip action top lever."
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You're a prime candidate for my hunting club...bring extra clothes when you come to hunt.
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That observation was passed on to me by a respected Birmingham gunmaker who is a current Guardian of the Birmingham Proof House. I think others here with familiarity with these actions have also confirmed that is the signature top lever shape for a Webley Screw Grip - not sure there is an argument to be had on this point.
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Doverham,
Don't mind Joe. He failed both Reading Comprehension 101 & Dale Carnegie Training. Probably why he is homeless!
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I am certainly sorry I stuck my nose in this,except I did learn a lot about the Webley patent.
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Doverham ,it certainly looks like a screw grip nut ,but not benefiting from the extension,as with the later Webley 600 and 700 range .Whether it is a Webley action or not I could not say from the picture . There were a couple variations on the theme ,I recall a Danial Frasier that had what looked like a grip nut but was in fact a boss that keyed into the action rather than a screw thread . The gun shown does not have a typical Webley top strap being longer than the norm for a Webley .
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plus replaceable hinge pin. Not from what I'm seeing.
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