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By 1898 he was at 86 & 88 State Street, Chicago & appears to be known for his triple barreled sporting weapons. At some point he was head of sporting weapons construction at the Marlin Arms Company(Remember Charles Daly was president of Marlin Arms) as well as being a superintendent at the Westinghouse Arms Plant.
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Raimey, I don't know the answer to the question about Parkers with Louis D. Jordan barrels. I only know that my Columbian Exposition B Grade Parker ten is wearing its original Damascus barrels, although a bit shorter than when it left the Parker factory. Bill Murphy
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Don't know where Kensal Rise might be but I think he has a Parker with a set of Louis D. Jordan pattern welded tubes.
It was J.L. Galef(85 Chambers Street - may have started out at 258 Broadway) who in the mid to late 1930s stated that he owned Schoverling, Daly & Gales at some point and had the records. It was also brought out that S,D&G sold more sporting weapons to individuals than any other sporting weapons concern.
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Has anyone ever seen the inlaid Sauer medal in a Daly before? Or in a Sauer & Sohns?
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I wouldn't say the Wildmann with a club/staff is rare on the fore lug. Greifeldt & other's either put their trademark on either the fore or aft lug. Not sure on the Sauer Dalys though.
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Craig,
FWIW, I have not seen the Hercules with a club figure on the lug of a Daly before. The lower grade Daly model 80s did not have the figure on the lug. As Raimey mentions, I have seen it before on other makes.
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I have found pictures of a couple of model 40's, but both without the cocking indicators, also all the cocking indicators I have seen made by Sauer are protrusions or pin type, either on the side or top. This Sauer/Daly, has a raised blade and turns.
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I could easily be mistaken, but I find myself hard pressed to believe it is a Modell 40 as it looks to be a Modell 14. Sauer 117715 is somewhat similar, with a Greener safety, xxxU stamp on the tube, has the DRGM around the cocking indicator as well as firearms merchant D.S. Spaulding(Cadena 23, Mexico, D.F.) atop the rib. Also I am curious where S,D&G drew the line for referring to a scattergun as a Daly or a Sauer. It seems that if a scattergun had Sauer on it, it was referred to as a Sauer gun. By the early 1900s(possibly earlier) S,D&G donated either a Daly or a Sauer gun for the trophy at a shooting match. In 1906 for example up till April 14th, all the eager contestants were shooting for a Daly then the prize was a Sauer gun. I believe it was September 8th for the final match for the Sauer. I'm sure the prize would not have been the $1k U.S. of A. Sauer available at the time or the top Daly, but on certain events a similar Sauer to Craig's just might have been the prize. By 1908 Daly liked to see articles/adverts similar to the following:  For the time, I don't know what the entry fee might have been for such events but about the same time the entry fee for a schoolboy for a similar event, probably a T.W. Stake scattergun as the prize, was $0.20. How long is the water table and what does the knuckle resemble? Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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I forgot to note that it may have been that the American firearms merchants which were a S,D&G retail outlet had a nice Daly gun with their name atop in their showcase or I guess it may have been their personal sporting weapon. In Mr. Cate's text on page 95 he shows the Edw. K. Tyron, Jr. & Co. Philadephia with Sauer serial number 103221 with the side frame blade indicators. Edw. K. Tyron, Jr. & Company experienced a name change in 1904 so if the name is correct it was made prior to 1904. Mr. Cate refers to it as a Modell 11 and not an American model.
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