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Could someone please help RedDot post pictures of the Webley Screw Grip action. I for one would like to see some good pictures of a Webley Screw Grip compared to the for lack of the correct name "Trade Action w/extensinon & spindle actuated 3rd lock" that Wrights & others used for their heavy proof guns. I don't think Homeless is alone in confusing these actions.
I've been struggling with posting pictures myself.
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The seller and I were able to come to a meeting of the minds on pricing, so I am now the newest custodian of this gun. Thanks all for the helpful input.
Its previous owner was John Gregson, who writes for SSM.
Such a long, long time to be gone, and a short time to be there.
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That's the best news I've heard this month. I'm sure it will perform at Journeyman level for the tasks you ask of it.
Congrats!
Best,
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Doverham,Pleased to hear that you have aquired the Gallyon/A.A.Brown wildfowl gun.I am sure it will fully meet your expectations.
In answer to your question, competition live bird shooting in the U.K.was banned in 1922.Pigeon shooting for sport and pest control continues today with the Wood Pigeon [Ring dove] being the primary quary bird for the vast majority of sportsmen.
During fall and winter months 100,s of thousands of these birds arrive in the U.K. from Europe, augmenting the local population to a level when serious damage to crops result.Daily bags in the 100,s are often achieved.This is not new sport,for example records show that in 1891 a T.G.Sowerby and two brothers shot 455 pigeons over decoys in a morning.
After 1922 Pigeon guns made by the British gun trade focused on non competitive live pigeon shooting in conjunction with clay pigeon shooting.
The typical Pigeon gun of the post war era was a 12 G SXS double, with 30 inch full choke barrels with file cut rib, chambered for 2 3/4 shells. These guns were nitro proof for 1 1/4 ozs loads.Corresponding weight of the gun ranged from 71/2 -7 3/4 pounds. The most popular action was box lock none ejector,with double triggers ,Purdey under bolts,Greener cross bolt and Side clips.
Makers catalogues of the era often also advertised this gun as a Wildfowl or Pigeon gun.The wildfowl versions were chambered for 3 inch shells & nitro proof for 11/2 ounce loads.The corresponding weight of the gun was increased to between 8.0 &9.0 pounds.
Last edited by Roy Hebbes; 09/14/12 09:10 PM.
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Note that 3" loads might be a bit unpleasant for all day use, but, that would be a fun old gun to use for sporting clays. I like the treatment applied to the the breech balls, it practically screams "kids, this is a big gun, it is not a toy"!
Let us know what you go through getting it here. I would advise finding an importer or at least an FFL who has imported a few guns.
Best,
Ted
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Thats 3" inch standard not magnum .Although it was considered at its time to be 2&3/4" magnum equivolent .
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I'd bet either would be unpleasant in fairly short order-the gun is shy of 8lbs. I like my loads like my women, a bit more petite than usual...
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Roy - I have done some "wood pigeon" shooting over here, standing next to silos and shooting pigeons as a favor to farmers. Good sport (and practice for dove hunting) but a dozen or two birds was the best we ever did. It would have been fun to have this gun in hand for those days.
Ted - I totally agree. Kent TM 1 3/8 oz loads is all I need and want to shoot out of this gun. Having the heavier proofs on this gun will provide some mental comfort for shooting loads with those pressures.
Such a long, long time to be gone, and a short time to be there.
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Joe. Your looking in the wrong place (not the extension) look at the action and lever. It is NOT a Webley & Scott and it is NOT a screw grip nut. This gun is a Birmingham trade action. If I knew how to post pic's I would show you a Webley screw grip nut.
RedDot. He doesn't listen very well. We tried to get that through to him a page or two ago. Best, Ted You two don't know what you are looking at.
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Joe. Your looking in the wrong place (not the extension) look at the action and lever. It is NOT a Webley & Scott and it is NOT a screw grip nut. This gun is a Birmingham trade action. If I knew how to post pic's I would show you a Webley screw grip nut.
RedDot. He doesn't listen very well. We tried to get that through to him a page or two ago. Best, Ted You two don't know what you are looking at. You can't count, either-since, three people have told you it wasn't what you thought it was. Best, Ted
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