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I don't think it is fair to compare these guns to W&S 700-series guns (nice guns, I own one but a totally different beast from these apparently unique guns). The fact that this is a garniture, with such an unusual and beautifully executed interface of top lever, barrel extension and fences reflects a level of effort that should equate to best. For a boxlock, this has to be near the apex of a gunmaker's art - whether that is the same thing as a "best" sidelock I will leave for others to debate.
I would love to have heard the discussion that went on at Harkom as these guns were conceived and built!
Such a long, long time to be gone, and a short time to be there.
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Nice guns! Stunning wood and fences!
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Those are really beautiful guns IMHO. It appears they don't have intercepting sears. Smallbore, apparently safety sears are not a requirement for a 'best' English boxlock? I've heard the internals are gold plated with these Harkom guns. Is this the case?
Socialism is almost the worst.
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I am pretty low on the totem pole around here as far experience with these guns goes... but these guns look like "Best" guns to me. To those that think they aren't, what is it that disqualifies them? What needs improving?
Just trying to educate myself.
Thank you!
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Presence or absense of any particular action type like SLE or feature like intercepting sears or chopper lumps (on damascus barrels?!) doesn't, to my thinking, denote best or less; materials, fit, finish etc do.
They are magnificnet, and appear to have been built to a standard rather than a price point; I bet the person who commissioned them, and the people who built them weren't thinking "how much"...
"Garniture": now there's a word not heard often enough!
Last edited by cadet; 07/17/12 11:44 PM.
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Viewing pictures on the internet is a tough way for me to see quality level without many macro shots.
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I saw this set of guns several years ago and am suprised that they're not tucked up in someones collection.The work inside is as good as outside and they truly are some of the finest work that you will ever see.The case that they are in finishes them off superbly.The wood is not to fancy because when these were made the manufacturers used English walnut on them.They end up with the patina of a piece of good quality funiture.
A great set that should make someone very happy.
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OWD, Greener would object to you calling a Facile Princeps a boxlock.
His G-guns took more time and cost more to build than his sidelock.
The quality if the Harkoms is beyond criticism. Unless you can tell me where the materials, craftsmanship, fit and finish do not equate to best work.
They are not for sale.
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Nice guns mo doubt but Cabelas had a nicer Harkom boxlock listed a couple years back.
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For my taste, a shooter, best gun I've seen.
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