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Gunter:
That is one beautiful gun. Even with the modification done to it I for one would love to own it.
Jim
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Jim,
yep, that's exactly what I thought when I saw it in the London auction catalogue about 18 months ago.
I knew that it probably was a 'Suhl' gun by looking at the engraving.
I put in an 'absentee' bid and won it at about 50 Pounds below my max !
Was I happy? - hehe - does a bear .... in the woods?
Have since been trying to find out which of the Suhl makers actually made this gun (not that it is that important - but these things grow on you... )
regards
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Gunter:
Hopefully Raimey will be able to help you out here. I see you're located in Great Britian. Was there any problems with registration/licensing due to the rifle barrel?
Jim
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Jim,
no problem with registration as I have a firearms licence (FAC) and several other rifles.
It can get a bit tricky sometimes as you have to prove what you 'need' a particular caliber/rifle for!
Either as a member of a target shooting club or have (written) permission to shoot specified game or vermin on specified land!
Much more difficult than for you guys in the good old US of A!
Make sure that the idiots don't succeed in taking the 2nd A. away!
As a member of the NRA I get a copy of the American Rifleman every month and I read it with interest from the first to the last page.
As you know, here in the UK we lost ALL our handguns in 1997
which put a full stop to my no. 1 sport.
I used to compete internationally in pistol target shooting.
The British Olympic Pistol Team nowadays has to go to France or Switzerland to practice! Can you imagine that?
(not sure whether the team still exists, but the above was true a few years ago)
Raimey has already given me some good info - I had overlooked that round mark though and only added a pic of that after his contribution.
Best regards
Gunter
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does someone have information on this mark? (the round one in the centre of pic with fig. 9(?) ) I have no idea whether this is part of the English reproof marks or an original german one - and if so, what it is. thanks Gunter Life member NRA 1976  Yes, that is part of the reproof, date I suspect, from the little British Isles. Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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As I think I stated, that's a very high serial number & with the 1/2 pipe side-frame reinforcement, it should really narrow the field. Sauer's serial number sequence was a little below that and Greifeldt, Merkel, Simson/BSW should have been about 1/10th that serial number. The contour of the 1/2 pipe side frame reinforcement doesn't mimic Greifeldt either but for sure it is some maker's Bockbuchsflinte(?).
Kind Regards,
Raimey
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As I think I stated, that's a very high serial number & with the 1/2 pipe side-frame reinforcement, it should really narrow the field. Sauer's serial number sequence was a little below that and Greifeldt, Merkel, Simson/BSW should have been about 1/10th that serial number. The contour of the 1/2 pipe side frame reinforcement doesn't mimic Greifeldt either but for sure it is some maker's Bockbuchsflinte(?).
Kind Regards,
Raimey Does that make the gunmaker a "Bookie" then??
rse
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Francis:
Do you mean Brummie?
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Raimey,
thanks for the information on serial number/reproof mark.
that narrows it down in that I can disregard the makers you mentioned and try to find which of the remaining Suhl makers would have had guns in that range of Serial number.
Any info on where Krieghoff serial numbers would have been in 1939?
The serial number of this gun is 366005
Yes, it is a Bockbüchsflinte, or BBF for short.
Forgive my ignorance, but what is a '1/2 pipe side frame reinforcement ?
Best regards
Günter
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Francis:
Do you mean Brummie?
Kind Regards,
Raimey
rse Ja- das ist Korrekt!!
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