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Some cases for Chamberless guns. Note headstamp: Lagopus.....


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I appreciate the in depth reply to my question!

The gun is in transit now and I will post many more pictures once I have it in hand in a few days. Based on the serial and another gun by the same maker, I believe it was made in the 1920s.

My intent is to leave it as is. More to come.

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Burrard gives a good bit of coverage to these chamberless guns in his 3-volume work "The Modern Shotgun". While these guns used heavier than normal shot charges they alo had lower than normal velocities which kept the pressures in line. He gives some load data on them, but of course with Black Powder & Obsolete Smokeless ones, but they can serve as a reference as to what the loads should be. The gun may be somewhat light for handling 2Ľoz at normal velocity, which might produce a fearsome recoil.


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Can you bring the gun to the Southern SxS this weekend in Sanford? There will be many people there who would love to see it.
I'll be helping Toby Barclay of Heritage Guns in the 1st tent. I'll try and wear a name badge.

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Joe - I would truly like to bring the gun to Sanford, but I have a schedule conflict. I am planning to take it over Carolina Sporting Arms early next week.

If you are interested in meeting there, PM me with your phone number and I'll call to arrange a time. Thank you for your interest. This is a big purchase for me and I will be anxious until I actually have the gun in my hands for a closer inspection. Regards, Chris

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I would think that with modern plastic wads, their base skirt would expand to fill the bore just fine and gas blowby would not be an issue. There are plenty of American trap shooters who swear by the Stan Baker "Big Bore" barrels which are essentially a 12-gauge chamber all the way to the choke. About .800" bore.

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I second Researcher's suggestion. I often shoot 12 gauge loads in 10 gauge guns using Gauge Mates reducers. The downrange results are very good and comparable to those same loads shot in 12 gauge guns.

The loads used range from 6000 PSI reloads to factory ammo, often the promotional loads found at WalMart.

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Chris, very interesting gun. I have a couple of questions, who is the maker and what does it weigh?


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Here are few more pictures provided by the seller. I am waiting to actually have the gun in my hands, so I can't answer all of your questions, but I do appreciate the interest.

This is a William Ford shotgun, cased, as the pictures will show. Barrels are 30". Engraving coverage is nearly complete and condition is very good.










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Very Nice Gun!!!




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