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Forend cheat sheet I use: Name(s), Patent #, and Date


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Hammerguy,
Thanks very impressive. I am going to copy onto my computer if that's ok?

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Raimey is correct, Diggory also mention it in his book "Vintage guns for the modern shot" P 138 Harvey 'grip catch' of 1866
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Any idea what this latch is know as - we see it on many of the perrins guns and has PUSH engraved on it and highlighted in gold?



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Hammerguy,
Thanks very impressive. I am going to copy onto my computer if that's ok?


Of course it's ok. PM me an email address, and I'll send you a better quality version if you desire.

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Originally Posted By: Oldfarmer
Any idea what this latch is know as - we see it on many of the perrins guns and has PUSH engraved on it and highlighted in gold?
John


I've always heard/seen it called the Perrins Push, but I've never done much research on it, not being much of a "Perrins guy". Although, Dig has a very sweet little Perrins on his site that may change all that!

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It's a push latch...says it right on there.

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Oh yeah, now I remember. Clarence V. Push of Shrewsbury, England invented it 1897. He was a gunsmith. His partner, William Safe, invented the tang slide safety.



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This forend latch question has led me to something I've been wondering for a while - two things actually.

First, I realize this was a time of fast-paced experimentation and clearly a sort of darwinian logic prevailed, but who in their right mind would think the Hackett snap-on forend from 1878 is a better mousetrap than the Anson (1872) or Deeley (1873)? I mean, this thing comes along, five or six years after two wonderful mechanical mechanisms were perfected, that you have to slap into place and pry off. I have Ford I dearly love, but it's only flaw is that lego-like forend.

Second, lets say its 1895 and time for me to get a new trio. Im a traditionalist, like my hero Lord Ripon, so I stroll into Audley House and order up some damascus hammerguns. Can I also request the Grip forend latch? I believe it would have been a non-standard piece of hardware for Purdey. Would that route the hardware thorough to a different craftsman, maybe even someone not onsite at Purdey? Or, would they have convinced me their standard Anson was a better/only choice?

I realize neither have a definitive answer, but Im interested in thoughts and wonder if anyone has found any documentation based on research theyve done for their more unusual gun configurations.

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I understand that it was a cost implication with the grip lever being quite complex to make. It is in my opinion the best sort and easiest to operate with Anson push rods being capable of becoming quite stiff. The hacket snap seems to be found mainly on the lower end guns. There is also a push button type on some higher end Scott guns which I don't care for as it required pressure on the button while trying to lift the forend at the same time and both together makes it quite awkward. Working the grip lever lifts the forend away as it is pushed across. Lagopus.....

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