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I have to side with George on this one. In SOME respects, the registry facilitated international travel for Canadians as well. It certainly makes obtaining a Form 6 from BATFE a lot easier. Also, I travelled KLM through Amsterdam to Jo'burg in September of 2011 for a plains game hunt. Having a PAL and registration papers made it easier for me to obtain the requisite permits from Canada's Department of Foreign Affairs, Holland's Customs Office, and South Africa's SAPS. We managed these things before the registry, and we'll manage them after it is gone, but in this one respect, it made travel easier.
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I want to be happy about King's announcement, but the fact is, I like the long gun registry. Let me explain before I incur the wrath of the usual suspects:
I went to the trouble of taking the Canadian test for acquiring a Possession and Acquisition Licence and then registered all the guns I might want to bring along on my Fall waterfowl/prairie gamebird trips to Saskatchewan. The long gun registration is rediculously easy and a marvel of bureaucratic efficiency.
Everyone else on my arrival plane has to present their temporary registration papers and hand over the %50 bucks while their gun is flyspecked by customs personnel to make sure there's no error in the serial number or something like that. Meanwhile, I present my P.A.L. and permanent registration card and walk right through with everyone thinking I must be some sort of VIP.
You are certainly right that the registry had its advantages for Americans who went the route you took. However, all is not lost. The PAL is still a requirement and if you have one, then I expect that your passage through Canadian customs will continue to be as smooth as it was before.
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Let me see if I understand this correctly. American go up to Canada to hunt. They bring sporting arms for this use such as shotguns and rifles designed for this purpose.
Why in the hell is it anyones business but theirs and the guide that they are bringing in firearms for that purpose?
Ever see a terrorist sporting a Winchester model 12 shotgun or a Model 70 rifle?
Jim
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Jim, unless you want to learn the real meaning of deep cavity search...I suggest you don't try to cross the border in that frame of mind while travelling with guns...  CJ
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From one lefty to another, congrats King on losing the registry. As a Maine resident, I have often wondered about about the Grouse hunting in Canada near the ME border, from Woburn to Woodstock. I might look into what Geo did to facilitate my crossing the border more smoothly.
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Jim, unless you want to learn the real meaning of deep cavity search...I suggest you don't try to cross the border in that frame of mind while travelling with guns... CJ I can drive virtually anyplace in this Country including the Peoples Republic of California with a gun in my vehicle no questions asked. BTW: Does the US Border Patrol insist you have paperwork for your firearms to cross from Canada to the United States? I don't know the answer so that's why I'm asking. I tend to avoid going anyplace where I can't legally carry a gun and think I might need one and that certainly includes Mexico these days. We used to vacation in Rocky Point but stopped several years ago due to the violence in Mexico today. Jim
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I can drive virtually anyplace in this Country including the Peoples Republic of California with a gun in my vehicle no questions asked. That is the same here in Canada. We don't even need to ship a rifle to a FFL dealer but can ship directly to the buyer. However, we do have tighter restrictions on handguns. We can own them, shoot them and transport them, but they must be registered and we must have a permit. Regarding your question about the US border guards: As one who has shipped or transported firearms to and from the USA, the US has much tighter export and import restrictions. It has gotten to the point where I only bring antique firearms into the USA. Temporary import and export are not as problematic either way.
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Let me see if I understand this correctly. American go up to Canada to hunt. They bring sporting arms for this use such as shotguns and rifles designed for this purpose.
Why in the hell is it anyones business but theirs and the guide that they are bringing in firearms for that purpose?
Ever see a terrorist sporting a Winchester model 12 shotgun or a Model 70 rifle?
Jim CJO has it right Jim. About every six months we read a newspaper story about some American who tried to cross the border witha hand gun in the glove compartment and they didn't declare it. Maybe they thought no one would notice or maybe they forgot they were traveling to a different country with different laws. Vehicle and guns get seized, they get to spend time in jail, they get charged with a felony offense and they get little sympathy from the court system. There are no circumstances where it is worth the risk. Also without being an expert on hand gun law in Canada I think it's safe to say an American under normal circumstances will never get permission to travel within Canada with his hand gun.
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I would not feel the need to carry a handgun at least in the places I've been to in Canada. Nor would I ever try to drive across your border with one.
I DON'T feel the same way about Mexico due to the severe crime/gang problem and that's why I no longer travel there.
I was visiting Brazil a few years ago and managed to hook up with a fellow collector who I'd only corresponded with via the Internet. He took me around to several sites in Rio. He had a H&K MP5 submachine gun between his two front seats. It wasn't legal to do this but he told me he had driven through to gang fights with bullets whizzing by and he was taking any chances.
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Rio sounds like parts of London! It is said that when they hold the Olympics there later this year there will be a lot of false starts due to the sounds of gunfire from the streets. Lagopus.....
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