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James M #263657 02/02/12 01:38 PM
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The Valentines Day anti gun/Starbucks article post WASN'T political. Here it is again read it for yourself
Anything I post that's political, about Obama for example, I've put into the "Misfires" area as this is a gun forum. This article is about an anti-gun attempt by a faction who apparently hates guns.
There is no specific mention of politics in the article.
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http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/con...-valentines-day


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Originally Posted By: italiansxs
Originally Posted By: Wonko the Sane
The Werhmacht Awards Forum??? WTF is a ref to a slimeball pack of Nazi MFers that makes your post legitimate here??

Even having that link on this board is more damning than anything I'd care to see here.

JMO of course but FOAD

Dr.WtS

I'm on several forums. I used that one as an example just so you could show your true colors. I don't know ONE NAZI sympathic person who collects militaria. Many celebrities including Clint Eastwood and the late Bob Hope have or had large collections of German Militaria. The ONLY NAZI sympathisers I've ever run across are the skinheads who attend gun shows but they don't have 2 nickles to rub together probably like the crowd you hang with. Whats damning is someone with your know it all attitude and low class demeanor even participating in a collecting area devoted to fine shotguns that's generally populated by gentlemen. As soon as I'm done with this post I will block any further posts from you as I've realy had it with your hateful and moronic drivel.


WHOA!! I'm running scared now!!! Good to know that your eyes will no longer be despoiling my golden posts.

I knew this old Jew guntrader guy. Long since dead, God rest his soul. He made a couple $million selling Nazi crap to so-called "collectors of Nazi memorabilia". He just laughed his azz off that those Hitler smooching butt kissers would pay him good money so they could join in the memory of a loser mass murderer. And AFAIC everything even remotely associated with that time or group should be at the bottom of the Marianas Trench and I don't care how many gold inlays it had.

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I think Wonko's inflammatory comments have knowingly 'fueled the fire' of this thread. The initial intent dealt with gun control....it wasn't about the Nazi's. Let's give this thread a rest. I'm sure the majority here are against most gun control. We get the jist.


Socialism is almost the worst.
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Amen!

James M #263687 02/02/12 07:01 PM
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We used to have a few probable anti-gun trolls. Dave exorcised them. We may still have some trolls, but at least they're pro-gun trolls.

James M #263701 02/02/12 08:41 PM
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I know Jim, and he is an honorable guy. His wife is an absolute treasure. The Werhmacht reference disturbed me also; his choice.
When we bird hunted together near Sonoita I made 3 rules:
1. Don't shoot my dog
2. No medical talk: I'm out there for the joy of being out there and to escape the pain and suffering, death and dying.
3. No politics: see #2. Working in correctional medicine, I don't need to be reminded of man's depravity or the degeneration of our society.
Since politicians vote on gun rights issues; it is political.

We're here because of our shared interest in things double gun and, since we apparently have computer access, are perfectly capable of educating ourselves about those issues that matter to us.
Possibly we could all respect Dave's parameters and restrict our posts here to "Questions & Answers - Side-by-side shotguns, Doubleguns, GameGuns...etc."

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Thanks for your kind comments Drew:
I have a varied collection of firearms and militaria. I am not a frequent poster on the WAF forum nor have I bought much of anything in recent memory as prices are sky high for items from this period. Additionally these artifacts firearms,daggers,swords etc. are all uniformly of very high quality. I conciously used that forum as an example because I knew what this Wonko guy would do and he sure did it. Additionally I have been a student of WW II since I was a teenager probably due to my uncles regaling me with stories from their time in the service.
However I will tell you all this:
If someone should go on the WAF forum and make ANY kind of comment in support of the 3rd Reich they will be expelled immediately.
Anyone on here own any double guns made between 1933 and 1945? If you do they were made when the evil empire was in charge and you own a relic from that period.
Here's an example of an item from that period that sold for over $400,000. I guess in the views of some here this should have been melted down for scrap. BTW: The militaria dealer, who I know, who acquired this desk set from the vet that brought it back is Jewish. Virtually every auction house that sells firearms such as Julias,Rock Island, etc. also readily sell 3rd Reich regalia.
I guess all who take exception to these items should boycott those auction sites.
The period from 1933 to 1945 was one of the most horrifc eras in human history but ignoring it or the remaining artifacts is to ignore history.
Additionally someone brought up the number of total deaths as a result of WW II as being around 80,000,000. The majority, over 50%, can be directly attributed to Joseph Stalin and the Communist regime. Where is the outrage over those who collect Russian military items?
Jim
http://my.news.yahoo.com/hitlers-desk-set-sells-423-000-us-020605856.html

I started this thread with the simple expectation that everyone would note that the antis were planing to boycott Starbucks on Valentines day and with the hopes that everyone would take note and support Starbucks. I never expected things to turn out this way.
I again want to thank you that have supported me both publicly and privately and perhaps we can now get back to collecting.

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I can't believe a lot of what I'm reading here. A few guys who have made posts here numerous times in the past pertaining to fishing, dogs, drinking tequila, etc., are pontificating that the content here MUST remain 100% Double Gun. Do as I say, not as I do, I guess.

There is an indisputable link between guns (even double guns) and politics. Every issue of the American Rifleman is infused with politics. Some may not like or enjoy that, but if all of us refused to keep informed and spread the word about the continual assault on our rights to keep and bear arms, we would have lost that right by now. If you are at the doctors office and see a copy of American Rifleman in the magazine rack, you can read it or say... "I don't care for the politics in that rag so I will read something else instead." So what is so hard about doing that here? Just don't read the things that do not interest you. Again, I think it's wrong for gun guys to not want to keep abreast of anti-gun issues, but that's a personal choice. No one worried about all the other non-double gun related threads that I pointed out earlier. But this is causing much consternation. Why is that?

Last observation: It appears that Dave Weber did not move the original thread. It sounds like he only does things like that when someone asks him to do so. Considering the other non double topics that fly just fine here, it sounds like there is some kindergarten stuff going on that we may not be aware of.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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keith:
I certainly agree with your above points. Anyone is free to draw their own conclusions as to whether a gun related topic is relevant to this forum and our hobby and I suspect the vast majority of the members here believe this to be judging from what I've seen.
I also have to think it'd reasonable to question someones motives who objects to airing potential issues created by the antis. At least I believe I've demonstrated who the real bigots are on this forum.
I heard last nite the Jerry Brown aka "Governor Moonbeam(CA)" has banned the public display of unloaded handguns after some complaints from unnamed sources. Apparently several gun owners showed up at a Starbucks with unloaded open carry pistols to counter the antis the last time around when they staged a boycott.
I also read yesterday the New Jersey is potentially enacting an ammunition ban bill that would essentially outlaw the sale of virtually all ammunition in the State. The bill basically states that any ammunition that's potentially harmful to the police will be banned from sale. I expect this would include most types of shotgun ammo. Getting closer to home here?
This is an ongoing and constant battle so you can face up to it or stick your head in the sand and hope it will go away.
Jim


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