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So, the selling of an out of proof gun would be a tort, even though both parties agreed upon the sale? Who would be the plaintiff in this court action, and how would they have standing?
I'm fine with the proof house in existence in England, or wherever else it has been in effect since we were a colony. That's not the issue here, as you'll discover if you read the title of this thread. You guys also drive on the wrong side of the highway, unlike most of the civilized world. Just because it works for you doesn't mean it would work for us.
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Gene, the driving on the left side goes back to the days of knights etc. You wanted the guy you were passing to be on your right side, so your sword arm was free to take action if necessary. Guess they didn't worry about left eye dominant people with swords, although I don't know whether natural lefties were all trained to fight right handed. If we buy handguns or any other kind of gun from a dealer, we have those 4473's--which the govt says they don't retain, but which dealers are required to retain. So it's not like there's not a record out there, somewhere, on most gun transfers in this country.
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Well someone would have to complain or else none would be the wiser. It's just a form of customer protection. Yes, it does work for us and maybe it would work for you in some form or another.
Australia, New Zealand and Japan drive on the same side! Lagopus.....
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We already have a similar organization - Underwriter's Labs - that examines electrical appliances and apparatus and if everything is grounded properly etc it receives an "UL Seal of Approval"
It is entirely private.
A domestic proof house that is a "real" proof house (not just some shade-tree smith that puts a few hot loads thru a gun) would serve a useful function - I can envision buying a good older shotgun with the sale contingent upon the gun passing proof. The seller could refuse, of course.
There are a lot of lengthened 2 1/2-inch chambers on some fine English guns and it would be much easier to send them to a domestic proof house than back to Birmingham or London.
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Gene, the driving on the left side goes back to the days of knights etc. You wanted the guy you were passing to be on your right side, so your sword arm was free to take action if necessary. Guess they didn't worry about left eye dominant people with swords, although I don't know whether natural lefties were all trained to fight right handed. Forsooth, nay. The French had as many knights as England, as did Spain, etc., and they all drive on the proper side of the road. At any rate, knights jousting pass left side (shield side) to shield side. The English drive perversely because it's part of their eccentricity.
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Gene, the fact that the jousters are toting lances might have something to do with passing left to left. Otherwise, unruly horse might cause you to skewer your opponent before the "laissez les aller!" signal has been given. And the French didn't have as many knights as England after the English archers got done with them . . .
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The English drive on the right side of the road, that is, The Left. Americans drive on the Right side of the road because it is something else that they got wrong.
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Salopian, we're just in the process of catching up with you Brits. We're starting to build roundabouts! Only problem is, because the only place I ever encountered them previously was in England, I have a tendency to turn left rather than right. I always figured roundabouts were just the British getting even with American tourist drivers, because we kicked you chaps out back in the 18th century.
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Salopian, we're just in the process of catching up with you Brits. We're starting to build roundabouts! Only problem is, because the only place I ever encountered them previously was in England, I have a tendency to turn left rather than right... If I remember correctly we used to have them - they were called "traffic circles" and they were largely gotten rid of in the late 40s and early 50s to help speed up traffic. I think we do go around roundabouts anti-clockwise (left)
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