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Thank you, Jim. Nice gun.
I have my gun on the desk here, similar fine engraving, but my gun, s/n 6708 does not have the brass cocking indicators (?) nor that great fat screwhead sticking out of the LH sideplate. What is that for, reinforcement?
My lever is very finely engraved, is yours? My lever sits closer to the trigger guard. I can't post pics, but if someone comes in to assist I can send that helpful person a pic by e-mail.
This is the gun that Ho JoE has insulted twice, by the way.
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I call that screw, "The screw to nowhere" it has no function that I can figger out. I'm not certain whether the gold nibs are cocking indicators(currently not functioning) or if they are vents. I'll have to pull the the pins above and the striker disks and see what it is all about. The lever is engraved and the gun was re-jointed by Kirk when it was sleeved. I have a single slide of the gun as I got it, if I ever find it I'll compare the lever position-- or not. I'm much more a big picture guy once I own something  Eventually, I'll get the screws redone and timed up, black the furniture and the barrels, and call it good for a while.  It's a crazy old gun from early on in the period of transition to hammerless guns. It's certainly understandable how it's significance could fly right over the head of someone like JoE  It's also naughty (in a Victorian sort of way), if you remove the trigger plate, hold it vertical, and view the lock works straight on, it looks like a ....  Stanton made the lock in my SLE as well as this gun, an interesting tidbit from the standpoint of a vendor relationship lasting 20+ years. Methinks old Jos. Lang must've been decent guy. Jim
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I can't post pics, but if someone comes in to assist I can send that helpful person a pic by e-mail.
This is the gun that Ho JoE has insulted twice, by the way.
Mike As I recall...His gun has little in common with the gun you posted.
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My gun was in rough shape when I bought it, pitted and perforated barrels, dinged, dirty, shrunken, and worn wood, off face, and a mainspring broke during test firing after sleeving. I came to it through a now departed, gem of a man and gun dealer who called me first, after he, "Had to buy it, to get some Winchesters" that were his forte. On the advice and with help from, "my dear old uncle" Jack Rowe, I had a pair of mainsprings made in England. The stock was refinished/checkered as best possible and the Silvers pad added by a gunsmith friend of mine. Old guns can come back from fairly remarkable depths if you know the people, have the money and patience to put into them. Aside from warm regard I have Jack, Kirk, and the others that have touched this old gun, I got in cheap enough as to still be below the "upside down" point- I think.  An added bonus is the opportunity is to show up at LC Smith Collectors Assn shoot and befuddle an old friend. Jim
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That's the third time jOe has insulted my Lang!
Well, it was very very cheap to buy, the stock has been repaired,(free), it's on face, with the free damascus tubes from my Belgian gun, no cost, given to me, I think I can make a silk purse out of this old sow's ear.
I might have $900.00 in this old beauty when I'm done
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Mike,have any gun photos to share?
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if you want cosmetic perfection, with no seams showing, then ed is not the smith for you. i understand that there are other smiths who do fine cosmetic work with no seams showing.
Guess I don't understand why, on a vintage gun that you thought highly enough of to sleeve the barrels, you would settle for anything other than fine cosmetic work. Except for the "Master Gunsmith's" work, those sleeve job pics are amazing. I'm thinking I need to start looking for a beautiful old receiver with crappy barrels to send to Kirk.
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Sleeving, in theory, is a very straightforward procedure. Especially when cosmetics are not a priority. 
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It's a crazy old gun from early on in the period of transition to hammerless guns. It's certainly understandable how it's significance could fly right over the head of someone like JoE
12ga Trigger plate action delivered 1880
Top lever opening had been out for almost 10 years...what I see is a gun that was basically a design failure. Sorry if it flew right over the head of someone like BeN.
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Sleeving, in theory, is a very straightforward procedure. Especially when cosmetics are not a priority. ben: nice job...who did the work?
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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