doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion Classic & Custom Single Barreled Sporting Rifles @ doublegunshop.com OT - Need help selecting ammo for deer hunt

USAGE: V - Varmint; M - Medium Game (Deer, Sheep, Pronghorn, Black Bear); B - Big Game (Elk, Moose, Grizzly); A - African Big Game (Elephant, Cape Buffalo, Rhino, Lion)

BULLET TYPE: SP - Spire Point; Rn-EX - Round Nose-Expanding; FMJ - Full Metal Jacket; Barnes TSX - Barnes� TSX�; Barnes TTSX - Barnes� TTSX�; Partition - Nosler� Partition� Flat Base; BST - Nosler� Ballistic Tip�; Accubond - Nosler� Accubond�; Spitzer - Norma� Spitzer

Click on compare cartridges

http://www.weatherby.com/product/ammunition/cartridges/40330

Damn what a Scott.

I'd go with the 180 grain at $37.00 a box...the deer will never know the difference.

I wouldn't worry about the kick...it's all in your mind.

Mike, for Mule Deer, the 150s will do fine. They shoot very flat for a long way. Recoil is no big deal.

Back in the day, Dad booked a bear hunt with Alf Madsen on Kodiak or Afognak. He went to Carls and bought a then new .300 Weatherby. Several weeks later he came back and in a couple of days, we went to carls and he traded the Weatherby for a Model 70 Super in .375 H&H....When carl asked him why? Dad said the bear hadnt read Weatherbys advertising..Big enough gun for muleys tho...I like big guns, my elk rifle is a .416..And recoil is no big deal, like Moody said..

I would use the 150 or 180 gr NP Nosler Partion. They stay together well on impact. I have been using them for years and taken many whitetails with 160 gr. 7MM mags and 165 gr 30-06. The 300 pack a little more punch and should be good for long range, open country muleys. You are better off with too much gun than too little. Just make sure the first shot hits the mark and you won't need to worry about a followup. Although it is funny how I alway feel the recoil at the range but never in the field:).

I'm more in line with the late "Cactus Jack" O'Connor-- a 8 & 1/2 to 9 lb. BA long extractor controlled feed (Mauser K98)rifle with scope- in 7x57mm, .270Win or 30-06 with appropriate bullets for the species and range-

American has always been a Country of "performance minded men- The Andrettis, Ed Iskendarian, Carroll Shelby with cars- and Roy and now Ed Weatherby with CF rifles. A good friend, solid frame like the Chicago bears linebacker Brian Urlacher or Dick Butkus- won a .300 Weatherby with travel case, sling, scope and two boxes of 180 grain WB ammo- like me, he had been used to a pre-64 Std. grade M70 in 30-06--

Now, when you sight in and shoot from sandbags, I do agree that the felt recoil is waaay more than in the hunting field- but that .300 WB kicks hard on both ends. If the Weatherby is a later series made in Japan, I would have no qualms about having it Magna-ported to reduce felt recoil (and increase muzzle blast)- if it is a first series made by Sauer in Germany I would not--

If your son is an experienced rifleman and hunter, he's OK I'd guess, but if not and he's taking "Granddad's rifle" out of familial loyalty, that harsh recoil might discourage him from going further into hunting and shooting--

I also agree with the discussions of both the Win .338Mag and the superb .375H&H magnum calibers- I have neither, I have a "split the difference" G&H Mauser in .35 Whelan with a Zeiss scope- if I get an elk tag, that's my first choice- but I am also taking a M70 in 30-06 scoped as well--

Thanks guys. I have enough to proceed. I really do appreciate it.

Thanks again,

Mike

Oh- almost forgot- thanks for showing the photos of the fine double guns too-

Mike,
The advice regarding 150gr. - 165gr. bullets are right on. Those referencing older norms haven't been keeping up to date with how "modern" bullet construction advances have improved terminal results. The old 180gr. are now the new 150-165gr. bullets.
If you can't pole-axe a Mule derer with A 165gr. bullet out of a 300 Weatherby, you wouldn't be able to kill it with an M40 grenade.

I have a 300 Win Mag that I load 200 gr accubonds or partitions in and use on about everything I hunt. I've used 150 and 165 gr bullets of traditional construction and didn't like them, for the simple fact that I usually ended up with a bunch of bloodshot meat on most all animals mentioned, shot at fairly close ranges. I've taken moose, elk, deer, caribou, muskox antelope and bear with the 200 grainers and am much more satisfied with the 200's than the lighter ones. Poleaxed some moose at a bit beyond 300 yds with the 200's, so they shoot flat enough.

Of course the bloodshot issue may not be as big of an issue if the shots were out beyond 200yds or so.

The important thing is for your son to shoot the rifle sufficiently enough to become comfortable and confident with it, and to ensure lethal shots out to the ranges he could possibly be shooting at, no matter what bullet weight is chosen.