doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com Caveat Emptor re Russ Gould of doublegun hq

The life this has created will run lots longer than this thread. As KyJon and others have stated to Russ --- "just let it go !" In as much as their advice wasn't heeded, kinda makes one wonder how many years this will stick in the minds of the gun buying readers and friends. You know how it goes --- I tell a friend and he tells a friend and before you know it the story spreads and gets blown out of preportion. Man, this could follow a guy forever ! I've been in the firearm business for 48 years and can tell you of each guy who has screwed me. I also remember the warnings of friends who have told me about such and so dealer and the dirty/unethical dealings they (or their friends) had with them. Boy, I sure would hate to have that following me around --- Ken

All this, and for a couple hundred bucks - I think this takes the cake!
You'd think this was over an uppity smallbore.

I would be LIVID if I'd paid for that case (thus, making it MINE), only to have the seller decide it was okay to use MY purchase as a shipping box for something else he'd sold to a third party... WITHOUT first advising me of the intention to do so and obtaining my permission. Mr. Gould, your seizure of this particular expedient solution to a shipping problem that was YOURS, not Mr. Vella's, was improper, to say the least, and it tells me you are someone with whom I would not care to do business. You blew it, in a BIG way, within the sphere of business ethics, not to mention ordinary common sense, technicalitites of civil law notwithstanding.

I have a relatively simple gunsmithing project that a local could easily handle. I thought about it last night and I think I will contact Brian and see if he would like the work. What is a few dollars in freight for the confidence of knowing you will receive superior service.

I know your internet personality very well. You are aggressive irritating and always right. The last time I checked there is no requirement to provide documentation of an OPINION.

For those who might be interested visit the BBS's at accuratereloading.com and do a search for this 'gentleman' and read his rants. I believe you might find some of the same at nitroexpress.com.

Why don't you ask Dave Weber to make this post a sticky if you are so proud of it?

This thread has brought a question to mind. Why is it that our culture ASSUMES the seller to be the honest one? Why doesn't the seller ship, and then the purchaser send payment when he receives what he purchased? Who has more to lose in the transaction? If the deal goes bad, the seller is out his cost, while the buyer is out the full price. And if I purchase a gun from a dealer with an inspection period, why do I have to return the gun to get a refund? The seller required funds before he shipped the gun to me, why shouldn't he now send a refund before I return the gun to him? Why should the buyer take all the risk? He's not making any money on the deal. Profits from being in business are the reward for taking some risk. Where's the risk for the seller when he is paid before the item is even shipped. ALL the risk in being taken by the buyer. BTW, "What goes around, comes around."

Good stuff B Frech!
"Why should the buyer take all the risk."
Why should my plastic be money in the bank, when I wait on pins and needles to see if my gun makes it thru UPS for the three day inspection. If the gun is damaged - its my gun!

What's a CFH?
The possible good point of this Thread is that it has illustrated how not to conduct business. Today with the contact provided by the Internet, an increasing amount of commerce is being conducted over the Internet by individuals that will never come in physical contact with one another. The cost can be $$ or comparatively small but in all cases, one needs to conduct business with integrity or the system will collapse which is why we have Regulation of the Stock Market. What I am seeing in many areas is that individuals for whatever reason don't understand the importance of thier integrity and. I for one am becoming very wary when I conduct business over the 'Net.
When the case was used to ship guns to a third party, all requirements of the customer to satisfy the seller as to actual damages ceased. What Mr Vella wants is nothing from the seller but only to make others aware of the way the seller conducts business. I am aware and I'm sure that many others will become aware. -Dick

A CFH is a "customer from hell".

In this case (pun intended) it is not our culture, it is because the seller admitted fault. He used the case he had SOLD to ship guns to a third person. This is wrong. He should have apologized and refunded Ron's money.

Instead he chooses to continue bashing Ron and anyone whose opinion differs from his. Foolish.