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Any here have any idea as to the pressure of gamebore 2 1/2 inch,12 and 16 gauge 1oz load's ?
Thank's in advance.
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Very helpful,very similar to the other commercial low pressure maker's...but I can get this stuff in Canada !!!
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I shot game bore 16s out of a drilling last year. My perceived sensation was they kicked me hard. Much harder than vintage 12 bore loads. The polywads kicked less but I have no pressure comparison to provide.
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Your sensation of felt recoil, Rookhawk, was your body telling your mind you were right to think these loads were hot!
There was a time in the late 80's early 90's, before I owned a PC and "the web" was something I read about, when I was looking for low pressure loads and Kent Gamebore was pretty much the only game in town, along with Polywad, of course. At least that's the way I remember it.
Anyway, after RST came out and was on everyone's tongue I bought some and never looked back. I knew from shooting them they were a much lower pressure cartridge.
I strayed occasionally to test other waters. I've got a flat of "Westley Richards" 12 bore #6's I'd forgotten about until recently. I believe they were made by Lyavale, or some firm close to that spelling. To me, these seem hotter than the RST's as well. So did the B&P's someone gave me once, as well.
Hard to beat the RST's as far as I'm concerned, unless you reload of course. I prefer my cartridges to be sub - 7,000 psi, at least those I shoot in all my oldies, which is pretty much ALL I shoot!
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Amazed at how some myths never die a natural death. Pressure is irrelevant to recoil. It is the velocity of the ejecta coming out of the gun that produces recoil. And a low pressure load is quite capable of producing velocities equal to a higher pressure load. It is the quantity known as " work " that produces velocity (represented by the area under the pressure curve) not the peak pressure on the curve. That is why some of the new powders like LongShot are able to produce higher velocities by sustaining moderate pressure just a little longer.
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Right on. Velocity and shot charge are the two key elements in recoil. If you want less of it, shoot slower and/or lighter loads.
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All interesting stuff fellas to be sure ,but 6500 to 8100 psi is not real high ....most of these old sxs gun from the turn of the century digested load's very likely higher than this.
So in a high condition gun ,what's the risk ?. (BTW....All mine have been re-stocked with new wood to fit me )
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Pretty snappy velocity, compared to something like the RST's. Their 16ga 1oz loads are either 1150 or 1200, vs 1260 for the Gamebores. In 12ga, RST 1oz loads run from 1125 fps on the low end to 1250 on the hot end, with several choices in between. Compare to 1295 for the Gamebores.
I love the 1 1/16 oz Gamebore Pure Gold 12ga loads for pheasants, but they are not pussycats in the recoil department.
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Are the Gamebore loads still loaded with shot whose number assignment corresponds to the British scale rather than the American?
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