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Miller, couldn't I back into that chamber pressure range using a reloading manual if I had those two numbers, dram equivalent and weight of charge? I think I can at least get into the ball park.

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Too many variables with shotshell loading for me. I think I will stick to reloading rifle and pistol.


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In their Gamebore line, Kent offers a 12ga Tungsten Matrix load in a 2 1/2" paper hull with a fiber wad. (Pure tradition there!)
30 gram/1 1/16 oz of 5's or 6's. Perfect in old doubles. Not sure whether those are American or Brit shot sizes. Their Gamebore lead loads go by Brit shot sizes, so it'd be good to inquire with Kent before you buy.

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Originally Posted By: treblig1958
Miller, couldn't I back into that chamber pressure range using....


What means "back into that chamber pressure range"?

I'm afraid I don't understand the question or the goal. Seems you're concerned about the pressure. That imnplies you want or are interested in "lower" pressure. Any new factory ammo can reasonably be expected to be operating near the SAAMI max recommendation unless specifically stated otherwise. There is no way to guesstimate what peak chamber pressure a load might generate from the measured velocity and payload, much less the crude and antiquated DE term. DE is virtually useless these days in light of the fact that SAAMI specs allow a variance of +/- 90 fps from the associated average velocity. and A quick glance at any reloading manual will show you many recipes with identiacl velocities for a given payload and pressures that vary from 6,000-11,000 psi.

The only guesstimating that's justified is interpolation of velocty & pressure when everything else remains constant. Extrapolation is never justified. Even the powder companies sometimes become aware of unexpected pressure excursions and revise their data accordingly.

IF pressure concerns you at all, the ONLY way to alleviate those concerns is to test. For $15 Tom Armbrust will tell you what the pressure is.


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How do I get a hold of that rascal, Tom Armbrust???

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A 3 dram equivelent with 1 1/8oz shot in a 12ga is supposed to produce a muzzle velocity of approximarely 1200 feet per second. Look in any realiable loading manual see how many loads with 1 1/8oz shot pushed to that 1200 FPS you can find. Look at the assortment of powders used & also look at the range of max pressures listed, probably from around 6K up to about 11K. No! dram equivelent tells one nothing about the max pressure, only the approximate amount of Work done.


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Well, so much for that idea.

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Originally Posted By: treblig1958
How do I get a hold of that rascal, Tom Armbrust???


Tom Armbrust
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1108 W May Avenue
McHenry IL 60050-8918

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