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Will get it measured tomorrow. Its about just where the forcing cone is in the breech.

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Very sad to be sure Tony,but I'm so very glad you and the lad came away unscathed ...to be quite honest I think after a bit you'll see this as another challenge wink

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Seems to me that a feller ought to regard any sign of dents or bulges within 12" of the breech as a deal killer. In front of that pressures have dropped so much that it is not that much of an issue. Bulges though, for me in any part of the barrel are deal killers.


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Originally Posted By: Ballistix999
Will get it measured tomorrow. Its about just where the forcing cone is in the breech.

T


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What a shame but as others have said, it could have been much worse.

I like the idea of sleeving for 28ga. Seems like it would be a beautiful little 28. I wonder if you could have your microwelder weld up the crack, dress it and then sleeve it??

Good luck with whatever you decide.

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Quote:
"And my BIG question still is...HOW DID this gun pass a full Birmingham proof test 2 months ago?!"

I am certainly no expert on proofing and I'm sort of repeating what I stated earlier in this thread. From my understanding proofing is nothing more that a snapshot in time and verification that a set of barrels at that time withstood a proscribed overload.
This to me tells you exactly NOTHING about their performance in the future particularly when it involves a decades old firearm.
Also keep in mind that any real understanding of metallurgy is a relative recent phenomon and it's doubtful that anyone knows the actual metellugerical makeup of your guns barrels.
Again; and this is of course my opinion; shooting older guns is a crapshoot. You are running a risk albiet a minimal risk if you follow the generally accepted procedures when using classic guns but you must be willing to accept the consequences when something like this occurs.
I think I can say we are all thankful you wern't hurt.
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Tony you ever saw a table lamp made from a hammer gun ?....It would make a nice looking one.

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Again; and this is of course my opinion; shooting older guns is a crapshoot. You are running a risk albiet a minimal risk if you follow the generally accepted procedures when using classic guns but you must be willing to accept the consequences when something like this occurs.

Especially older fluid steel barreled guns.

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This is a good example of something that needs to be put away for whatever period of time may be necessary until perhaps something comes along that appears to be a decent solution. Rushing into a quick fix will be expensive.

I surely wouldn't get in any hurry about a fix. Just put the gun away for awhile, maybe show it now and then as an example of what can happen. Move on to something else and let this one just be forgotten for a while.
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Originally Posted By: Chuck H
Tony,
It's far enough forward for sleeving. All you need to sleeve is a good few inches from the breach.

As to how it happened to pass proof, it was marginally strong enough and the proof load imparted what was likely the fatal stress spike but it didn't show. Fatigue failures are not visually detectable nor are they detectable by common magnaflux, dye penetrant, or ultrasonic inspection methods.


Chuck,

I believe you would be more familiar with fatigue failures than most of us.



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