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Originally Posted By: GLS
Originally Posted By: Bob Cash


$2,499 shipped insured saves this vintage double from the choke reamer.



A variation on this magazine cover theme, except no dogs will be harmed. Fear the grim reamer.


My thoughts exactly!


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I've made an appointment with one of the finer gunsmiths on the west coast to have the chokes opened to .013/.007.


Very unfortunate. Ruins the gun for many of us, and narrows your market even further.

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Might as well bob the barrels off...

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Originally Posted By: Replacement

Very unfortunate. Ruins the gun for many of us, and narrows your market even further.


Any of the "...many of you..." are welcome to step in if you feel that this gun is for you and needs to remain in "Rifle tight" constriction.
I've tried to do the responsible, vintage doubles conservator thing but to no avail. It might just be the Universe telling me Light Mod./Improved Skeet.

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Bob, I do not have nor do I expect a vote. I have an opinion, and I have stated it. I don't like guns with open chokes because they don't work well for my type of hunting. I wouldn't open up a perfectly good field gun just to improve my skeet scores or to kill more planted quail. When I hunt wild quail in CA and AZ, tight chokes are the ticket. Opening the chokes does narrow your potential buyer pool, because you can never put the metal back into those muzzles.

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Maybe the Universe was whispering Improved Mod/Improved Skeet (.017/.007) and I simply misheard it.


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No one should ever open a classic shotgun choke. For one you are only the "temporary" owner and you'll ruin the shotgun for the next buyer. If you can't change the shot pattern with spreader loads or Polywad double-wides or just let the bird go out further, like I do, buy another shotgun with the chokes you desire. If you're still not happy, buy a shotgun with screw in chokes and leave the remaining few untouched classics alone!

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He's enjoying the attention too much.

Time to leave him and his soon-to-be wrecked Sterly alone.


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Originally Posted By: Model2128Ga
No one should ever open a classic shotgun choke. ... you'll ruin the shotgun for the next buyer. ... leave the remaining few untouched classics alone!


Didn't most of the "Vintage Classics" that were not built for custom orders leave the factory choked impossibly tight and tighter with the understanding that the guns' new owner would choke the gun as he determined necessary for its' intended use? Were custom ordered guns with custom specified chokes of less than Full and Full "ruined" at the factory?

$2499 shipped insured and you can be the new guardian of this fine Fox.
Put it in your gun museum and charge the folks $1.25 to see the last "Vintage Classic" with original chokes, er you think??


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Let's not get testy about shotgun chokes. It's Bob's gun and he can do whatever he wants with it, right or wrong. For me, it's not so much a matter of originality as it is functionality. I don't buy or shoot guns with open chokes, and way too many of the older guns seem to have been opened or shortened by guys who decided to do that to their guns. Problem is, there are getting to be fewer and fewer old doubles, especially small bores, with the tight chokes that God intended them to have. Fortunately, I have a few small bore Parkers with tight chokes, and my one Sterly is Full and Fuller, so I don't need Bob's gun. Otherwise I'd be seriously tempted, because it is a nice example and still (for now) has proper chokes.

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