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If lower wages are part of the solution, Chuck, how low would they have to go to make a difference? A lower-wage economy has as must chance as those promoting the steady-state economy of limited growth. No one has forgotten that working men and women paid the price for those now licking the cream.

King,
not so much lower wages as appropriate wages for the labor value. If organized labor pushes labor costs beyond what the business can pay and still make a profit, it's gone too far. Auto makers and government both have had employee costs that they couldn't afford for the long haul. I met a friend's son that was considering retiring. He was 45 and a fire battalion chief. He could make much more money collecting a high percentage retirement and onto another career than continuing to work for the fire dept. Something is wrong when we see these out of scale salaries, retirements and bennies.

That mean you won't be buying any of our old English made guns then? Yippee! More for me.... /wink..

T

Oh and BTW:
Someone forgot to tell my 22 year old American made daily driver that it should have quit running years ago.
Jim

My Hondas are built by my neighbors right here in Ohio. My '62 Corvette though is all American. My last Chevy was the second worst car I ever had, the first one was another Chevy and I was a GM guy before that. Your right we need to get rid of the unions and become like the previous CEO of GM and make 31 million a year and then blame it on the backs of those that made the poorly engineered stuff and have the stones to blame them for it. My broken Chevies, were not by the side of the road because of the people who built it, it was there because of those that designed it. You want the economy to get better? You pay a wage that keeps people on the move going on vacation, to ball games, races, buying golf clubs, guns, fishing poles, campers, boats, planes, etc. If they have spendable income, there is taxes that are generated. Jobs are created, building and maintaining these items. It isn't going to happen at minimum wage, ever.

Cheap imported labor is problem in places that you do not even think about it as a problem. Just last week they busted and closed several houses of prostitution in Indy that had been staffed entirely by imported Central American illegal immigrants all doing illegal things for far below scale wages. They were putting honest American workers out of work by doing their jobs. Non union labor at that.

If you refuse to buy from non US/Can. makers you will have to do with out most of the clothes and shoes sold in the US. Like most here I do not have the body to go barefoot and naked anymore. I have to buy a car with non US parts because I can not walk to work. The world is what it is and you have to pick and choose your battles. This is not one of the best.

I'm going on memory here but, my friends' 2010 Toyota Tundra has a decal on the door that says that 87% of the parts in this vehicle were mad in the USA. PARTS!, gentlemen. It was also BUILT here, employing Americans. Can Ford, Chevy or Dodge claim that 87% of the parts that comprise their respective vehicles were made here (USA)? I doubt it.

Like many others I prefer to buy American. But..............what IS American anymore? Simply that the company's headquarters are here?

We own/run eight John Deere tractors, combines and cotton pickers, all built in America. What's more American than John Deere, right? Oh, please! Am I to get bent out of shape because Germany's Bosch builds a better injection pump, and Japan's NipponDenso builds a better starter than is built here? Not me, because I am not a hypocrite. If I grow cotton that ends being sold to China, should I boycott them and only sell my cotton to a textile mill in America? Tell me where there IS one, anymore. If my peanuts are exported to Singapore, or Denmark am I to get upset and stop producing them?

King Brown said it right, this is a global economy now. You can either face up to it and use it to your advantage, or you can spend the rest of your life being miserable because you can't buy a camouflage shirt made in America anymore. It is what it is, and wishing it was what it ain't won't make it go away.

SRH

In the driveway...2 Chevys and a Ford.

In the safe....6 Foxes.

I'm looking for a 100% made in the USA flatscreen TV.....any ideas?

mike, I sympathize with you. I drive GMC's and Fords, too. But, next time one breaks down, and you go to the local parts store to buy the replacement part, be sure to tell them you will only buy a replacement part "Made in America", hear?

Oh, good luck finding the TV.

SRH

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