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http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=56676628 The above 12 ga Parker "DH" grade #178855 is currently for sale on Gun Broker. However; According to the Parker Gun Identification and Serialization book it should be a V grade in 16ga. Comments! Jim
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Well, the Parker ID book, I'm told, does have some mistakes in it. Could also be the s/n shown on gunbroker.com is in error. That said, there sure is a big difference between a DH 12 ga. and a VH 16 ga.! -- Ed
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The guys on the PGCA Forum are not impressed with that gun http://www.parkergun.org/forums/forum1/2428.html The colors definitely look like a cyanide redo.
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The Titanic lettering on the barrel looks different, and the color on the watertable looks wrong!
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The engraving on the gun looks very suspicious to me. The scroll work and the dogs do not resemble any other DH grade I have examined or owned. The style of the engraving looks very similar to an upgraded Parker shown in the DGJ. If I remember correctly, the article was on Del Grego (sp?)and appeared in the an early 1990s edition. The article contained a VH that had been upgraded to an A-1 Special and the engraving was done by Runge (sp?) very late in his engaving career. To my eye his later work is distinctively different from earlier work for Parker.
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I think that the left barrel has been sleeved. Looks like that in both pictures. Sure drops the fair market value down if so to all the Parker people. They want origianl condition, not weel repaired shooters for top dollar.
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Both barrels look sleeved to me.
I'd bet on the stock being replaced also, not a very good fit of metal to wood.
It's a nice shooter for sure.
Funny looking dog ?
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It looks to me like the word "titanic" in the rib has been post parker put in. The "T" in the barrel flats looks like it was stamped over a "D" for damascus, besides it should be in a circle for titanic. Parker stopped using the rib stamping with "Conn" in it in 1915. It should be "CT" It could be a scratch but the barrels look like they have a seam in them between the letters NI in Titanic. It is hard to tell but it dosent look like the barrels have the hardend bolt plate that post 1905 guns have. Parker quit using the patent dates on the barrel flats in 1905. Before I bid on this gun I would have to see every place there should be a serial number. It looks fishy but I could be wrong.
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The gun has definately been re-case colored and the wood (which I believe is a restock)refinished. Further, the sleeving joints on both barrels are visible; and the letters in the word "Titanic" don't have quite the same slant/angle as the balance of the rib inscription. Another odd thing is the "DH" stamp; I though Parker grade stamps containing the letter "H" were reserved for ejector guns? I've seen a couple of glaring recording errors in the Parker serialization records; so I won't speak to incorrect grade/guage issues, but it will take a lot more evidence than what is presented in those photos to convince me that this Parker gun is an original,
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Sleeved for sure, cynaide color, wood looks strange around the trigger plate that butts up to receiver.
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