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The main thing not to like about a 21 is the price. smile I think they can make great clays guns. I have an early 16ga, DT/extractor, custom engraved and restocked. Makes a pretty good target gun, even with 26" barrels. Weight right at 7#.

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You are right about 21's being overpriced, Larry. It hasn't been all that long ago that a clean but not mint 21 Duck with it's 13 5/8" l.o.p. was a $2500 gun. Now they are $5500. No way are they worth that, but that's how they are now priced. Should be a $3000 gun at the most, but the market says differently. A nice field model with decent wood and good dimensions is a $6500 gun today, and it should be a $4000 gun at the most. Ridiculous.
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Originally Posted By: L. Brown
Makes a pretty good target gun, even with 26" barrels. Weight right at 7#.


Almost sounds as though you've published a gun review or two, Larry. grin


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John, "a field model $6500"? I think a Duck model today is more coveted than a common field grade. Short barrel field grade 21s are a hard sell.

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You're right eightbore. I'm thinking of prices for a decent field grade 20 ga. 12's are more like $4500 in 28"/30". 26" guns are very soft, as you point out.
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Originally Posted By: mike campbell
Originally Posted By: L. Brown
Makes a pretty good target gun, even with 26" barrels. Weight right at 7#.


Almost sounds as though you've published a gun review or two, Larry. grin


One or two, Mike. smile

I can remember getting Don Criswell's catalog, with dozens of 21's. Back then, a nice DT/extractor 12ga was about a $2K gun. Of course that's probably longer ago than it seems now.

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If any you fellas are interested, I've listed my Browning BSS w/ 30" barrels for sale.
http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=226659#Post226659

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The BSS is an unreal gun for the price and strong as a tank. About 3 years ago I picked one up off of gunbroker new in the box, choked full and full. I never shot it for 2 years, then one day I mic'd the bored and they were .723 so I shot some pigeon loads with it and they were some nice tight even patterns. I started shooting it for flyers and realy like the way the BSS hanadles.
I picked up another one 30" NIB, sent it to Teague for chokes and backbored to .735 Should turn out to be a nice waterfowl shooter. Just what ever you do with a BSS get rid of the stupid plastic butt plate. What were they thinking.

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what ever you do with a BSS get rid of the stupid plastic butt plate. What were they thinking.


Perhaps they were thinking that some of us prefer butt plates to pads. You can always cut an original to fit a pad, but it's real hard to go back. Only one of my BSS's has a pad, and it was on there when I bought it. I wish it still had the original plate.

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Originally Posted By: John Roberts
You are right about 21's being overpriced, Larry. It hasn't been all that long ago that a clean but not mint 21 Duck with it's 13 5/8" l.o.p. was a $2500 gun. Now they are $5500. No way are they worth that, but that's how they are now priced. Should be a $3000 gun at the most, but the market says differently. A nice field model with decent wood and good dimensions is a $6500 gun today, and it should be a $4000 gun at the most. Ridiculous.
JR


Yep, it's the market that determines the selling price of a used gun. What it's worth is a completely different issue.

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