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Oh, now they make them out of aluminium. That makes them even more useless. The brass ones could at least be used as a decoy anchor. Laughed out loud. thanks, Mike
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As indicated above, the drop-in gauge only works if bore diameters are "standard" (12ga = .729, etc). I have a German 20ga that's a solid improved cylinder (.007) in one barrel. My drop-in Galazan gauge shows no choke. Because that particular gun is marked 19 on the barrel flats, I know it's overbored by at least .010 from the 20ga standard of .615--so the overbore results in an incorrect reading. You need a tool that measures both bore diameter and constriction.
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Actually they're valuable in the right hands. When I'm looking at a vintage gun for sale I always ask what kind of tool they used to measure the choke. Often they've listed it as cylinder/cylinder. If it was one of the drop-in gauges then I know there's a pretty good chance the gun has more choke than the seller thinks. Some years ago I bought a great 32" Parker that was listed for sale as improved cylinder. I made the inquiry, knowing those early guns were generally way overbored. The seller had used one of those awful tools. Well, most people were turned away from it but I took the chance. Low and behold it carries original .035 chokes in both tubes and the gun is close to being in new condition! Lesson learned.
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Joe, I ran a bore and choke gauge in one of those old Parkers, and discovered the bores were about .750. That'll hide a lot of choke, if you're using a drop-in gauge.
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A Merkel, for example, if sawed off at the 20" mark, would check out on the drop in "gauge" as a strong improved cylinder or weak modified. A skeet bored gun with an almost invisible dent at the muzzle may check out as a full choke gun using the drop in "gauge".
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I polished mine up with Brasso. Looks useful and cool on the shelf in my little gun room!
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Mine's aquiring a nice patina from lack of use.
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Okay, I know the brass guage isn't reliable for exact choke measurement, but it will tell me whether the chokes are open or tight at least as well as a dime will in a 12ga bore, and the drop-in is good for all guages whereas a dime is not. That's all I really need to know at a gunshow.
Its nice too to tell when a set of barrels has been reamed way out. I once dropped my brass choke guage into an otherwise nice looking LC Smith 12ga and it fell all the way down through the chamber; the quick thinking seller piped up that he'd need to charge more for the gun since it was obviously a sought after 10ga instead of a run of the mill 12ga...Geo
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Okay, I know the brass guage isn't reliable for exact choke measurement, but it will tell me whether the chokes are open or tight at least as well as a dime will in a 12ga bore, and the drop-in is good for all guages whereas a dime is not. That's all I really need to know at a gunshow. George I don't think either the gauge or the dime tell you anything. With either the choke could be full or be cylinder. I have seen twelve gauge BORESs run from .707 up to .750. I still think the remark about using the gauges for a duck decoy anchor was very accurate. Best, Mike
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The road to hell is paved with all the fools I've been and yet I somehow avoided buying a "ring sizer" choke gauge. An 80$ Skeets will tell you all you need to know of bore and choke--at least in 12 and 16 gauge.
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