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John, is that FOB your shop, or delivered to the buyer ?

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joe you are a moron i have handled skb's Holland and it is wonderful.what do you get out of spewing this crap.im really confused at your motives.i think every one must ignore you at home so you try and take it out on strangers on a BB.your poor wife (what must your wife, children, and in laws think)mc

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That right Sweet pee...and I bet yer from San Franciz'co.

Truth is we'd all be better off if Californoa fell off in the ocean.

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so. California might be a clue!we wont fall off into the ocean as long as your out there sucking.mc

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So you think you look cool calling someone a moron and making comments about their family.

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I have a couple questions. How are the barrels finished? I can't tell if they are hot blued or if they have that satin black we have seen on some Turkish guns (yuck). Any idea what the boxlock or sidelock in a 16b weighs?

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The barrels on my s&w are blued not blackened. They are very well done.

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That old Holland of Steves aint too bad, I watched him shoot a Polish double with it one day, 2 shots, one bird........Course it was an unusual day in NW kansas, the wind was blowing..

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Mark--

My Smith & Wesson 20 ga. weighs in at 6 lbs. 6 ozs, with an English stock and 26" barrels. IMHO, it's a field gun, not a game gun knockoff. It has blued barrels, like, wkburns'. But if you go to the AKUS website, you can spec out lots of different choices, including the black that you don't like.

One caveat about the weight of a 16 ga. As I understand from Mark DeHaan, the Huglu (not the commando/akus) guns in 16 ga are made up using 12 ga barrel stock, so the any weight savings over 12 ga in the action is lost to greater barrel thickness. Don't know how that's done in the AKUS factory. The commando catalog certainly suggests a weight savings for the 16 ga., but it would be worth looking into if that's what you want.

John Boyd--

quick question about your offer. Does your $350 price include aggregating and holding the group's money and negotiating a volume discount with Commando, or is it limited to providing the importing services that TRI and other do for (ahem) a different price?

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Mark--

My Smith & Wesson 20 ga. weighs in at 6 lbs. 6 ozs, with an English stock and 26" barrels. IMHO, it's a field gun, not a game gun knockoff. It has blued barrels, like, wkburns'. But if you go to the AKUS website, you can spec out lots of different choices, including the black that you don't like.

One caveat about the weight of a 16 ga. As I understand from Mark DeHaan, the Huglu (not the commando/akus) guns in 16 ga are made up using 12 ga barrel stock, so the any weight savings over 12 ga in the action is lost to greater barrel thickness. Don't know how that's done in the AKUS factory. The commando catalog certainly suggests a weight savings for the 16 ga., but it would be worth looking into if that's what you want.


Thank you. I'm not into new guns really, but the boxlock at around a grand piqued my interest and appears to be a good buy in a 16, cosmetically at least. Basically it's the S&W Elite but in a 16. If it weighs more than 6 1/2 lbs though, there is no shortage of new but heavy 16b field guns out there in that price range to choose from, such as the CZ Bobwhite, etc...

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