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I was poking around and saw a few NID 410's for sale, but not Flues or Crass 410's. I thought I read that there were 700 and change NID 410's made.
Anyone know how many Flues and Crass guns were produced?
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I have not heard of nor seen a Crass in .410
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I believe they were all NID models.
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There were no Ithaca 410's prior to 1926--the year the NID was introduced. About 800 were made--roughly twice the number of 28ga. guns.
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All the Ithaca .410-bores were NIDs. Up through the last Flues catalogue, the smallest bore Ithaca catalogued was 28-gauge. With the 1926 NID catalogue they began catalogueing the .410-bore and dropped the 28-gauge. However, they did build NID 28-gauges from the beginning. The 28-gauge returned to the NID catalogues with the 1932 issue, concommitant with Western Cartridge Co. introducing their Super-X 28-gauge shell.  .410-bores -- Field Grade --790 Grade 1 -------64 Grade 2 -------40 Grade 3 --------7 Grade 4 -------14 Grade 5 --------6 Grade 7 --------2 Sousa Special --1
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There were Ithaca made Lefever Nitro Specials in .410. I have two.
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I believe there were also A grade Ithaca-Lefever .410's.
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And then there were these:   Only 18 made with skeet/skeet chokes. A few more, like 30/40 with other chokes. I have the data but not at hand at the moment. And of course there were these (Western Arms) 
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Walt, I have a Western Arms/Ithaca "Long Range" (!!!) .410 double, altho not in the kind of condition the one pictured is in. But mine has a oonsiderably longer forend than the one shown. Is that one standard or is mine?
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Mike, All the ones I have seen are like the photo. BUT I have not seen them all! In fact I have not seen all that many, maybe 10 or so. Not a lot of them around.
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Wonder if my forend is off a Nitro Special; do you happen to know if they are interchangeable?
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My intention in my opening sentence was Ithaca brand guns, nothing to do with Lefever or Western brand guns.
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STORM Esq. mmci, (McSporron) Late Scribe and Kiltie Wearer, and "Self" viewed several "Small Bore" Ithica's here in the Workshop of Perpetual Mess some years ago. In my Snyder book are several Sr.# 448950(.410 or 28b)457543(.410 or 28b)Many snow-storms since that time.....One of them had Much gold on action....I think the photos and notes are still in Mikes Files"Up in Iowa"....C/C dt.
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