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A similar problem occurred a year and a half ago. I tried to get answers and was shamelessly stonewalled.

Dig,

Thanks for posting that. I had thought I remembered a thread along those lines.

Pete

Dig,
18 months ago you were a highly respected but relatively powerless cog in the UK gunmaking machine. I wasn't even highly respected and am no better placed now! Now that you are a man of prestige and power, try knocking again, it might produce some results this time!
Seriously, there are some significant people out there who are being driven to do some awkward re-designs to make sure that this is not going to happen to their new guns. There are also some lesser known but equally heavy weight individuals asking some very searching questions and not getting the answers they need to steady their hands! However, some feedback that I have received from one is that individuals within the proof houses are very concerned albeit reluctant to shoulder any responsibility at this stage.

On the case and NEVER been Politically correct!!!!
You may not like what you hear but it will be what I hear or find out.
Please do not confuse me with HomelessJoe.

Is this problem occurring with new guns, re-proofed vintage guns or both?

Trying to find out the facts. Historically the Proof Houses have always been very diplomatic and guarded with making public statements, and perhaps rightly so. If we need to know, they invariably publish a pamphlet or issue a statement.
As far as I can ascertain there have been a relatively small number of incidences to date.
When you consider the number of guns proofed and re-proofed per annum the failures are indeed very small in numbers. It is very early days as yet but it is my belief that it may well be a problem associated with barrel boring, choke profile or metallurgy. Safe to say that it is my belief that any reasonably sound gun with a minimum (less than modified)of choke constriction should (will?) pass proofing.

Just got a pair of damascus barrels back from London Ptoof House - guess what? Bulged just behind the very light chokes.

Is the proofhouse using steel shot now? I do not think so, but something has changed.

The proof houses use the old two rule system when things go wrong.you know how it goes.
1 the proof house is always right ,no matter what.
2 see rule one.

Imagine if this were applied in the automotive industry!

"We are going to test your engines to see if they blow up when revved too hard. But We won't tell you how hard, we'll just let you know if they blew up while we were doing our thing".... and no, you can't opt out or go elsewhere.