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I just purchased a brass English bullet mold with the only marks on it "JG". It mikes .533 and casts a pointed bullet (slightly rounded at the tip) with one deep groove. The bullet is .8135 in length. I have not cast any bullets so I don't know the weight. I have checked all the books I have and can not find anything similar except the Fauneta bullet, which it looks exactly like. The bullet looks like it would be too light, I will have to cast some when things slow down a bit. Thanks.

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From your description I believe you may have a mould for a 'Paradox' bullet. Photographs would be of help if you can manage a couple.

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Sorry, the mould says Greenfield, London, not JG. Here are some pictures of it:






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Interesting mold. Same shape as an LT capped bullet but if it was the same length it would be way heavy. Could you send a casting to Millar? Maybe he could copy it in 20 or 12.

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I will cast some bullets next week after Christmas. I assume you mean John Millar in the Yukon. I am still not sure what it is. I would think it would be rather light, as it is smaller than it appears. It has 4 square indents in the mold right at the base. You can see these in the pictures. I have some cerrosafe and will use that this week to get exact dimensions. Will post pictures of the bullet and measurements this week. Thanks for your help.

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Yes JM in Canada but not the Yukon. Maybe I could get you to send me a couple of castings? Capped bullets , because they are hollow are long for their weight in comparison to solid lead bullets even a very wasp wasted paradox. LT capped 20's are not much shorter than a 12 capped bullet. I would expect a 28 to follow suit.

A solid lead 20gauge, the same weight as a 20 LT capped bullet.

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Definitely a neat mould.
With those four squared detents in the base of the mould, I immediately think of a muzzle loader, with four grooves...


On cerrosafe, don't bother.
It's designed to throw bullets of (whatever diameter, depending on alloy...) a specific diameter.
Try 1/20





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I was going to use the Cerrosafe to get the exact dimensions of the bullet and to see what the casting looks like. I will get some lead castings done after the holidays, plus it is only 13 degrees in my garage!

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Having seen pictures of the mould, I agree with Tinker, it's a muzzle loading bullet for a four groove barrel. There's no way you could load that bullet into a cartridge case, or even breech seat it.

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Think 'Jacobs Rifle'


Originally Posted By: Harry Eales
...it's a muzzle loading bullet for a four groove barrel. There's no way you could load that bullet into a cartridge case, or even breech seat it






There's a graphic for you on the Jacobs system, which wasn't the only way to fly with keyed bullets, but there you have it.






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