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Mike,

That's the one - I have 2335 in the database.

FWIW, the last mention of damascus as an option in the SD&G catalogs is 1902, though it looks like it could still be ordered for a few more years. I also expected the date of the barrels to be a little earlier when I saw the gun. Still, I can easily imagine a scenario where the original owner (desiring a second set of barrels for his beloved Premier) stops off at 302 Broadway, NY, to have them fit a second set of barrels. SD&G would have most likely would have gone to "their" manufacturer to procure the barrels - Lindner.

Taking a look at the 1889 Merwin, Hulbert, & Co, catalog, I note that the Scott Premier is going for $300 ($315 in 10 gauge.) The finest "Quality A" Parker could be had for $240 and the "Quality AA" LC Smith for $270. Only the "Highest Quality" Westley Richards gun is in the same price range as the Premier. Winchester '73 rifles started at $17.

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Originally Posted By: italiansxs
That Imperial Premier is drop dead gorgeous. Can you tell us what year it was built?
Jim


I have told just about all I know. The owner who sent me the pictures is a member here. Hopefully he will read this.


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Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
Nice guns...Lowell shouldn't look at these...they are beneath him. lOl

What's the serial number on the Imperial and is it marked Imperial Premier ?

Doesn't the lever appear high on the 20 ?


I am not sure but I believe the gun is marked "Imperial Premier" on the right barrel, but the picture I have of the breech end of the barrels is not detailed enough to make it out for sure.

IF the lever is high on the 20g I could overlook that minor 'fault'.


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Ken,

Have you seen my Scott/Lindner in person? I don't think I had it with me when we met.

According to the dates on this site it was made in 1875 which is what led me to guess the second set of barrels came earlier.


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Copy of November 18, 1886 Forest & Steam magazine with W&C Scott serial #40,527 one of the advertised guns.

Below is serial #40,765 two barrel set 20 & 16 built in 1887.







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Mike it's not 'if' but 'why is it high'.
I wouldn't want to but I guess I could live with the high lever.
It's a beautiful gun but there appears to be issues with the stock as well, (behind the trigger guard).
Who did the restoration on it ?

R.D. I've got almost the same gun in a twelve wish mine was as nice as yours. I'm not crazy about the low hammers, harder to let down than my others.
When and who did the restoration on it ?

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Nice guns. That Imperial Premier is fantastic. That engraving ranks up there with some of the best I've seen.

The other additions are nice, too. Mr. Gattis, that gun of yours is great. That's one of the best refinishes I've ever seen.

Check out these links to see some other guns being made in the 1880-90s:

Here's a Holland. This gun was made for them by Scott:

http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=63540482


Here's a Boss made on a Perkes action:

http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.C...mp;mode=viewGun

The Boss is from the company's pre-Robertson era. Robertson turn Boss into THE BOSS. The Perkes-patent Boss guns are pretty blah.

Here are some hammerguns:

An H&H:

http://ospreyarms.com/category_details.php?i=4&id=180


A back-action Purdey:

http://ospreyarms.com/category_details.php?i=4&id=165


A Woodward:

http://ospreyarms.com/category_details.php?i=4&id=44


Another Purdey:

http://ospreyarms.com/category_details.php?i=4&id=69


A Lang:

http://www.atkingrantandlang.co.uk/gundetails.asp?id=147


A William Evans:

http://www.atkingrantandlang.co.uk/gundetails.asp?id=382


And a couple of Bosses:

http://ospreyarms.com/category_details.php?i=4&id=116

http://ospreyarms.com/category_details.php?i=4&id=120


Overall, I think the Scott Premiers stand up to these guns pretty well.

OWD


Good Gun Alerts & more:

www.DogsandDoubles.com
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What a wonderful bunch of beautiful guns! Thank you all for sharing them with us.


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Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
Mike it's not 'if' but 'why is it high'.
I wouldn't want to but I guess I could live with the high lever.
It's a beautiful gun but there appears to be issues with the stock as well, (behind the trigger guard).
Who did the restoration on it ?

R.D. I've got almost the same gun in a twelve wish mine was as nice as yours. I'm not crazy about the low hammers, harder to let down than my others.
When and who did the restoration on it ?


Joe,

I am aware of some of the workers on the 20ga, but as it is not my gun I will not name them. That is the purvue of the guns owner.

Mr. Gattis 'stole' that gun from me! If not for the inefficient employees at the Cabelas store it would have come to me for inspection and I suspect it would have stayed with me. They did send a $50 gift certificate to make up for their poor customer service. Not quite the same as owning that beautiful gun though. The only thing I 'don't like' about it is that the damascus barrels are no longer with the gun.


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Joe,

In regard to the 20ga I should mention that while it may or may not have some perceived problems it was a 'wreck' before the current owner restored it.


Mike
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