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Okay,
I just bought a shooter 500 BPE W.& C. Scott which is rather plain. It was restored quite nicely, but has limited engraving on it. Would it be worth while to have it engraved a bit more?
I plan to shoot it and hunt with it.
Any comments?
Currently own two Morgan cars. Starting on Black Powder hunting to advoid the mob of riflemen.
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I think Lowell's response was to my question which was related to WC Scott guns, including Premiers. I am trying to get some sense of what makes guns from top tier manufacturers so much better than Scotts, especially Premiers, which appear to me to be just as fine as any other gun. The questioin and response are very much related to Premier grades
JDG
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Lowell,
There was a time when Purdey did not build just best guns. A good measure of their output was built in Birmingham by companies such as Scott. The same goes for most of the London trade. The London trade has limited its output to best guns when it serves them to. I agree that a best gun from Purdey, Boss, or Holland and Holland is the pinnacle of the art, but a good many Birmingham makers build just as well without the price or the snob appeal. I think David summed it up pretty well. Buy the book on Scotts and look at the pictures of W & C Scott Gunworks. I'm sure it dwarfed all others of the period. Scott built guns for the world not just a few Princes. My thoughts are if Scott hadn't merged or been bought by Webley they might command higher prices today.
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Mike,
I had some of the info on this gun you provided (thank you) but had neglected to record the barrel number. The closest Lindner barrel number to your gun (#1299) is #1304, which corresponds with a Prussian Daly with a serial number just over #1000. Based on the features of that gun, I would estimate the date of production as circa-1903. This date would jive with the proof marks on your second set of barrels. Are these damascus or fluid steel barrels?
Your gun has a story to tell for sure.
Ken
- There are two .410 built by Lindner in the database, one being a Daly. I'm not sure if the SLC gun is one of them.
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Homeless j0e
I think Lowell's response was to my question which was related to WC Scott guns, including Premiers. I am trying to get some sense of what makes guns from top tier manufacturers so much better than Scotts, especially Premiers, which appear to me to be just as fine as any other gun. The questioin and response are very much related to Premier grades
JDG There is a lot more to “Best” guns than the name, the time period should be considered as well when comparing one gun to another. My Premier (pictured) No. 41424 was made in 1887 and sold for $295. When you compare this price to other guns of the same time period and see what they were valued at then you may see the Scott Premier in a different light. The “Tier” system can be used to your advantage to buy some “Best” guns at affordable prices. Can someone supply the cost of a shotgun from other makers circa 1887?
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Michael,
In 1887 $295 was a heck of a lot of money. Parker D-grades (hammerless) were sold for $100 and that was a lot back then. I have no idea what $295 would buy in terms of an American SxS but I am reasonably certain that you would be buying the top of the line from Parker, Fox, Smith or LeFever.
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Here is a nice W&C Scott Crystal Indicator  
Last edited by Stallones; 01/16/07 02:58 PM.
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Michael,
In 1887 $295 was a heck of a lot of money. Parker D-grades (hammerless) were sold for $100 and that was a lot back then. I have no idea what $295 would buy in terms of an American SxS but I am reasonably certain that you would be buying the top of the line from Parker, Fox, Smith or LeFever.
JDG Just for the sake of dollar comparison, when first introduced, the Winchester 94 sold for less than $10 and THAT was a lot money to a lot of people then.
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Utah Shotgunner-
Is this gun purchased from one of the well known wood blank guys? Think I saw it on his website recently and was just wondering.
Alex
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I am reluctant to disassemble my Scott to see what the interior workmanship is like but is there anyone here who has done so to theirs? The point I'm getting to is there a discernable difference internally from a workmanship perspective between a high grade Scott or a Purdey or a Boss for example? As I stated earlier; externally Scotts workmanship on my example is IMO second to none.
Jim
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