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Ingrid Tichy Vyhmister's Tichy example:











I wonder what the "Patent 132762" stamp refers to?





Note the weight variation at the 1965 proof.





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Raimey, that is a beautiful looking gun that Ingrid Tichy Vyhmister has. Love that engraving, especially around the top lever. What is the the figure on the medallion inset into the stock?


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Raimey, that is a beautiful looking gun that Ingrid Tichy Vyhmister has. Love that engraving, especially around the top lever. What is the the figure on the medallion inset into the stock?

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Ingrid Tichy Vyhmister's Tichy example:
I wonder what the "Patent 132762" stamp refers to?



Note the weight variation at the 1965 proof.

Those barrels were proofed in Liege in 1925 (lower cased d is 1925, 1965 was a lower cased d )

They bear a little seen mark. The mark of barrels exported to a foreign proof house.

I believe that the N is the mark of Max Neumann. Max Neumann deposited 2 marks one in 1924 with the Raick Brothers and another in 1947, H in a rhombus He was active from 1905 to 1954.

The Neumann Brothers used an N inside a hunting horn, a light house with a beacon, NF in a circle, N with a small N below it, the head of Leopard and FN in a double circle. Both also had several trade names registered.

http://damascus-barrels.com/Belgian_All_Proofmarks.html
http://damascus-barrels.com/Belgian_Trade_Marks.html

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Peter that "N" in a shield is the Prague-Weipert 4th proof of semi-smokeless powder. Weipert, and the subsequent Brno facility, would have a "*" coupled with the Nitro type mark. The 1st proof was in 1925 as you noted and the weight is on the lower rib. In 1932 it was imported into Prague and passed thru the proofhouse. Then in 1965 there was some alteration and it once again passed thru the Prague proofhouse. There looks to be some difference in the weights(flat stamp could also be 1925 and lower rib 1965 stamp???). I haven't looked closely at the 2 stamps, but it might provide some insight as to the alteration. There is a mark forward on the left flat I can't tell what it is but there appears to be a "Crown" over "D" just ahead of the flats just before the "Choke" mark on the left flat. I assume the "17.2" was stamped in the 1965 effort but it could have been applied at the Prague proofhouse facility in 1932, but I don't know why.

Canvasback, I was checking my notes to see if Ingrid had noted what was on the medallion.

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Raimey,

OK on the Czech proof marks. I thought they stopped using the N by 1962? My sources do not agree on that one. Also, didn't the Weipert facility close in 1945?

What a long history as documented by the proofs.... The 17.2 may be part of a Belgian mark indicating the choke. As for the weights, I was not aware the Czech proof house was marking barrel weights. Though I have never seen a Belgian barrel weight on a rib.

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Peter:
I'm pretty sure it was used at least till 1972. I know that it was recognized in 1963 by the Brits. But I usually can't get the closing date of the Weipert facility correct, but I think it was 1954. Then the facility was transferred to Brno. Without the star, the proofing effort would have been in Prague. It may very well be that the Austro-Hungarian were the only ones to put the weight of the tubeset on the lower rib.

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The Czechs used the mark at least until 1977 as per these marks:

http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=174497&page=1

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Interesting. Scratch those sources when it comes to the Czech proofs....


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