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#203155 - 09/19/10 03:29 AM Can You Use High Brass Shells in Ithaca NID 1927 ?
Joe Brooks Offline
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Registered: 09/13/10
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Can you use high brass shells, in an old Ithaca NID made in 1927. I had read somewhere, that the Ithaca, was made pretty stout, at that time. Or would it have to much pressure, for the old barrels?

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#203159 - 09/19/10 07:52 AM Re: Can You Use High Brass Shells in Ithaca NID 1927 ? [Re: Joe Brooks]
HomelessjOe Offline
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I wouldn't do it....the NID was as cheaply made as possible.

That doesn't equal stout in my oppinion.
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#203162 - 09/19/10 07:58 AM Re: Can You Use High Brass Shells in Ithaca NID 1927 ? [Re: HomelessjOe]
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The NID was purposely introduced to handle SAAMI spec ammunition, something the earlier Flues was marginal for. On the other hand, no one can tell you over the internet what ammo is safe in what gun. Only a qualified double gun smith, with the gun in hand, can do that.

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#203164 - 09/19/10 08:04 AM Re: Can You Use High Brass Shells in Ithaca NID 1927 ? [Re: Researcher]
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On the other hand a qualified gunsmith can't even tell you.
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#203175 - 09/19/10 09:03 AM Re: Can You Use High Brass Shells in Ithaca NID 1927 ? [Re: HomelessjOe]
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Price does not necessarily relate to Stoutness. An NID will undoubtably stand up to a lot more heavy loads than would a
Purdey Game Gun. Compared prices on the pair lately??
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#203182 - 09/19/10 09:50 AM Re: Can You Use High Brass Shells in Ithaca NID 1927 ? [Re: 2-piper]
Ted Schefelbein Online   content
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jOe is confused, again. The Western Arms Long Range of the same era, produced by the same company, was cheaply made, much more so than the NID. Cheap, in this case, doesn't mean not able to handle modern ammunition, however. As Miller pointed out, the NID, and, in fact, either of the Ithaca guns will handle a steady diet of SAAMI spec ammunition better than English guns costing, shall we say, a bit more.
You can call the Ithaca ugly, but, many of them are out there still doing what they were intended to do, handling modern ammunition loaded to pressure levels outside the scope of operation of the Flues, without second thought by their owners.
My first concern on a NID would be the wood. If it were mine, a high brass load would be a very occasional thing, launched at a pheasant with his late season afterburner engaged. Do have a good double gun 'smith go through the thing, but, more than likely, there simply won't be any surprises.

Best,
Ted

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#203189 - 09/19/10 10:52 AM Re: Can You Use High Brass Shells in Ithaca NID 1927 ? [Re: Ted Schefelbein]
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Joe: Nobody's addressed the other half of your question ... "high brass" shells. That's a term most often used to suggest a heavier-than-average load with presumably higher pressures. The term is also falling out of favor because there is no longer a real correlation between the height of the brass and the make up or performance of the load. The bottom line is that there are all kinds of "low brass" shells that can quickly beat up a fragile antique gun, and we need to look more carefully into the properties of our ammo choices. The good news for you is that few would describe a typical NID as fragile. TT
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#203197 - 09/19/10 01:40 PM Re: Can You Use High Brass Shells in Ithaca NID 1927 ? [Re: 2-piper]
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My 1925 Scott is holding pretty good to steady diet of factory ammo.....give a NID a steady diet of 2&3/4" high powered pheasant and turkey loads and get back with me.
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#203198 - 09/19/10 01:57 PM Re: Can You Use High Brass Shells in Ithaca NID 1927 ? [Re: HomelessjOe]
Ted Schefelbein Online   content
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People have done just that for 85 years, jOe.

Where' ya been?


Best,
Ted

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#203212 - 09/19/10 05:52 PM Re: Can You Use High Brass Shells in Ithaca NID 1927 ? [Re: Ted Schefelbein]
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Registered: 10/28/06
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More loose Scotts than NID's out there. NID aint no sissy gun, its a tough mo-fo, built like a tank with that mid 20's & 30's gangster style. Looks at home either sitting next to a brace of birds or sitting next to a tiffany lamp.

Dustin

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