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Nice gun Jim.

OWD If it was made as a "true left handed gun" wouldn't the triggers be set up for a left handed shooter with the chokes reversed ? (I know the triggers could've be reversed)

The forearm latch looks different than most Premiers I've saw. Is the gun marked "Premier Gun' on the rib ?

I think it would be easier all the way around if I listed all markings on this Scott so here goes:

Top of barrels: (Right) W C Scott & Sons 78S Shaftsbury(?) Avenue London SW England.
Rib just ahead of dolls head: Scotts Improved Bolt
Top of barrels: (Left) Made of Sir Joseph Medfords Fluid Compressed Steel

Underside of barrels(Both): Whithworth Trademark* Manchester
Barrel flats near lugs: 13/1 "crossed swords" 12 over a C in a diamond

Water table: Patd. 5259-23 MF 1249 "crossed swords"
W C Scott & Sons Makers

The serial # 594XX appears on all parts.
N.B. It is possible I misread some of this as the letters and numbers are incredibly small even with a magnifing glass. I can take more picture if it would be helpful.
*The word "Trademark" is superimposed over some type of stamped crown.
As a side note: I've shot this Scott numerous time with low pressure loads and it's an incredibly nice handling gun!

Additional Notes:
All I can tell you about the forarm latch is the serial # matches the rest of the gun.
I cannot find any other rib markings other than the one I listed above.

Jim

It is not a Premier so can anyone help out with an identification? BTW, it is a 2-barrel set, both damascus. First set 30" second set 40".

Thoughts?

Jay thats not Parker. Allow me to take it off your hands so you can make more room in the safe for Parkers! Beautiful, and with a set of 40 inch tubes to boot!

40 inch tubes?!? Wow. Neat gun.

In regard to the model, from the engraving coverage (according to Crawford's book) it looks to be an "A" or "B" quality gun (just below Premier). Many of the Scott model designations are marked on the gun the top of the barrels (e.g., "Pigeon Club Gun"). Does your gun have a gold shield on the top of the buttstock just below the toplever? Or is the escutcheon lower on the buttstock?

Thanks for posting,
Ken

- I'll try and post some photos of my Scott later today.

Ken:
Thanks for the info. regarding the grade of my Scott. There is a gold sheild on the underside of the buttstock. It has never been engraved.
Jim

Jay what's the year of manufacture ?

I'd think that was an unusual Scott hammer gun with the square cross bolt.

Thanks for posting the pics folks, they are excellent guns indeed!

Don't know when my Scott was manufactured, perhaps someone can tell me from the Serial # which is 51314. Top of the rib says:

"W & C Scott & Son 10 Gt Castle Street Regent Circus London"

There is no shield on the top of the wrist but there is a brass oval on the lower buttstock. All serial numbers and proof marks match - looks like the gun came from the factory with both sets of barrels. It has not been Nitro proofed.

Storms, you know me well. Not a Parker but the girls seem to have welcomed her without objection. Have to tell you that this gun locks up like a vault and feels a heck of a lot more substantial than any of my Parkers. Hammer springs are still stiff - when you cock them you know by hearing and feeling the click.

I passed on a Premier, perhaps the one OWD aquired, and bought this one. It seems to have about 90% of the engraving you see on a Premier (note the hammers) but the damascus pattern on both sets of barrels is just spectacular.

The gun rests in an old Army & Navy case. Anything wrong with replacing the A & N lable with a vintage WC Scott Lable?

The gun was featured in the Nov-Dec issue of Doublegun Classics, an e-Magazine published here in Michigan and with which I am NOT affiliated. From the website you can download a sample of the magazine and see some better pictures of this gun. (This is not a commercial endorsement).

http://www.doublegunclassics.com/

This is my first hammer gun, and second English gun, and I am very excited to own it. I hope to take it out and break some clay birds with it in the next couple of weeks and I can't wait to walk up on the trap line with those 40" barrels.

Not trying to hi-jack this thread. I am very interested to learn anything I can about WC Scott guns, and this one in particular. I have read that in the 1880s and 90s it was "fashionable" for gentleman to hunt from horseback with guns sporting 40" barrels and I have heard of Greener's with 40" barrels but I have never heard of another Scott so equipped. Again, any thoughts and/or information would be appreciated.

http://www.peterdyson.co.uk/

Jay:
Beautiful gun and I don't see anything wrong with replacing the case label. The above site has these labels in stock.
BTW: I only live about 10 minutes from the William Larkin Moore establishment and so I get to see a lot of high end doubles. Frankly I've yet to see or handle one where the quality seems superior to my own Scott and that includes Purdeys.
Jim