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Larry, that's just typical reversed French thinking.
On early French airplanes you pulled the throttle back to increase engine rpm and pushed it forward to decrease rpm - exactly the opposite of the rest of the world.
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The first Idèals did not have a safety, as you can carry them off battery and cock
them as you mount to shoot by pulling the under lever (which has a very light
pull btw). It does not take a lot of practice to use them like this and it is a lot
safer than trusting safeties that are really not safe (unless your gun has safety
sears, which the majority do not) because all they do is block the triggers.
JC
"...it is always advisable to perceive clearly our ignorance." Charles Darwin
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If you guys are in need of the retactable sling you can find an almost exact copy on a J C Higgins (Sears) model 30 .22cal semi-auto. I think it was made by High Standard. It might work on your missing or rotted slings. You can also make the spring from a old typewriter spring. I got that tip from Russ Ruppel.
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. . . and other features not too numerous to mention but interesting: 3-position takedown lever on the forend; one of the positions (think at 12 O'clock) retains the forend on the lug. If you can't lay in down, you can't lose it. In addition to the "carry closed but cock on flush" which J.C. mentioned, the triggers can be held down on closing which will decock the linear strikers. You heard right; spring loaded round bar in boring in the frame carries an upright upon which the firing pins or strikers are located; very different from hammers which pivot on an axle. So that underlever is a busy little bee handling cocking as well as opening functions. And thanks for the tip of the m30 sling, gunny.
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More on Manufrance (Manufacture Francaise des Cycles et Armes). Oh man, Larry Brown will take me to task on the gender of an adjective or something but I'm taking the risk anyway. Like Iver Johnson a bicycle as well as gun fabricator. Produced more conventional double called the "Robust". Easy to spot as the barrels always look as if they've had a crude sleeving job. And for those who think the French are always facing the wrong direction, there is LeFaucheux who came up with the "velly Bwitish" break action gun. Then I suppose he laid around waiting for the Brits to eat his lunch, which they of course did.
jack
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If you should, by an off chance have a firing spring break, pas de problem, the Idèal will go on working as usual. She will not let you down in the middle of the field.
JC
"...it is always advisable to perceive clearly our ignorance." Charles Darwin
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Simply my favorite gun period!
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Sorry, Dustin, I didn't mean to repeat the content of your post which I apparently skipped over in my gushing enthusiasm.
jack
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Sorry, Dustin, I didn't mean to repeat the content of your post which I apparently skipped over in my gushing enthusiasm.
jack Its quite alright! I completely understand the gushiness and excitement one might have when discussing or thinking about the Ideal, its that cool of a gun! I really would LOVE to see the Ideal get resurrected by some resourceful company and get built to a high standard again. If more people knew about this gun...how it works, the design, the genious of it....it would absolutely blow their minds. I should never have sold the one I owned, but at least I know its in good hands.  Dustin Dustin
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I love mine, I have a 12 Ga. No6R, and I am always on the look out for more.
Mine's a tale that can't be told, my freedom I hold dear.
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