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Originally Posted By: mike campbell
Since case-hardening colors are so closely related to temper heat colors, localized heating can be used to alter the the colors or to add colors. A natural gas or propane and oxygen torch also works very well when the flame is very small and oxygen rich. These methods have been found to be very useful in obtaining excellent colors and consistent repeatable results.

The colors of Case-Hardening are produced during the "Hardening" (quench) proces. Temper colors are produced by heating to a degree which removes hardness. "Spot" tempering a hardened part results in a smorgasboard of hard & soft spots. This Method should "Never Ever" be applied to a gun frame.
Loss of color does not result in loss of the hard case, tempering it does. The hard "Case" may not be necessary in order to contain the forces of firing, but it "Was" put there for a purpose. It definitely should be kept uniform & not sporadic.
I do not know what method "ED" uses, but the appearence to me is of the process where the part is "Warmed" (less than the heat of boiling water), not to a temper heat) & then daubed with chemicals. "IF" this be the case this does not affect the hardness of the case at all, only the color of the surface.
Personally on my own guns even if the color is virtually all gone I just leave them "As-Is". This "Faux-Finish" though is rather easily applied & does not require a "Master" nor is it worthy of a "Premium" price.


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I think gun huckster "Ed" as opposed to gun destroyer "Ed" must be using up his stock of Ektachrome film. As for Landers, Turnbull must be "green" with jealousy.

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And I thought that this thread was going to show the 20 ga. DS Lefever that ED1 is selling on Gunbroker. Master gunsmith Ed Lander is an equal opportunity destroyer willing to alter the metallurgy of most any gun. I wish I had the money he spent on propane and acetylene.


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I just hope those green, blue and yellow case colors don't bleed into the wood!

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Originally Posted By: arrieta2
I reconize the case coloring. Old time trick of the trade. You heat up the action and stand over it and piss on it.

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John, you forgot to add pissing on the gun after drinking cheap beer that was dyed green for Saint Patricks Day.

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Originally Posted By: Toby Barclay
You are all so cruel but, boy, did you make me laugh on a dull day. Thank you!


Toby, the only good news is that he has yet to start destroying English guns.

Did I here someone say that Ed was moving to England? grin

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We could all chip in and buy him a one way ticket....

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equal opportunity destroyer willing to alter the metallurgy of most any gun.

Does anyone actually know (Or Care) if in fact the metallurgy of this gun has been affected. It still appears to me as a "Hideous" chemical coloring job.
Understand, I am not defending his coloring job on this gun, it no doubt looked better prior to the "Treatment", I am just not certain the actual integrity of the gun itself was affected, beyond its appearence. These are vastly different situations.


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Originally Posted By: Ken Nelson
I think the "flora" added a lot to the pictures.
It would have really touched my Feminine side....if I had one.



shocked And to think, I shook hands with you one time. laugh

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