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Sidelock
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For $1500 ish you can find a 20g BSS. They are much better built guns and I'd put their reliability up there with about anything you can buy at any price for a 20g sxs. Their innards are extremely well made. They do run about a half pound heavy for a 20g. Also, the SKB sxs 20g guns are good reliable guns.
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Sidelock
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The two I've taken apart have been very well-made, with all due respect to Chuck, finished nicely on the inside; as good or better than a BSS. The HUGLU/CZ is rough internally and not in the same league. As Chuck remarked, they are about 6.5 lbs. (and well-balanced in my opinion). That said, one was choked full/full instead of full/mod as marked. Both had very good trigger pulls and the only reliabilty problem I had over 1.5K rounds was two or three failures to detonate primers with one brand of promotional loads, which I attribute to the cheap ammunition, not the gun. One thing I don't like about the gun is a small step between the top of the breech in front of the toplever and the top rib; it makes me want to file it down flush.
Best,
C.
Last edited by C. Kofoed; 02/25/10 10:59 AM.
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Sidelock
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My test gun weighed 6/6 with 28" barrels. Looking back on the review I wrote, I see that they indicated the guns would eventually have choke tubes. Are they all still fixed choke? And all the ones I see are ST guns, although the 2nd one I shot had DT.
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Sidelock
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Sidelock
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Did you look at the KomandoAV guns at Shot Show? They make the S&W Elite look like a Fox Model B.
I'm trying to get them to bring a few guns to the Southern Side by Side. Best Turkish guns I've seen...Period.
They're making guns for Webley and Scott but those are their lower grade guns.
Last edited by Dick Jones otp; 02/25/10 04:38 PM.
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Sidelock
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Sidelock
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After reviewing the gun for Shooting Sportsman in 2007, I was impressed at the level of workmanship for the price. Like Clair Kofoed, the review gun I disassembled was very clean inside and rather cleverly designed with its trigger plate action.
I recently saw that CDNN had the Elite Golds on sale at about half price ($1200), so I bought a 28" English stock, Double Trigger model. I've not disassembled this particular gun, but all the exterior work is very nice indeed. Far closer to the Kimber Valier in execution than to the basic Huglus. The Elite Gold doesn't have the detailing or action of the Valier, but what there is is of good quality.
My only complaints about the gun I received is that it is a touch barrel heavy and I am not a fan of raised ribs. Other than that, I think that this is a surprisingly nice gun for the price.
Bruce Buck
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Sidelock
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That is great feedback. Looks like this a a gun to pass on. It just seems hard to decide on a solid quail gun in the under 3K range. Guess the answer is to move to the 3-4k range and start all over. Thanks for the help- You can pick up a Ugartechea from LCS without changing budgets - Grade III boxlock for $2300 or Grade IV sidelock for $3200. The 16 or 20 should make a nice quail gun. There are others on this forum who have more direct experience with those guns.
Such a long, long time to be gone, and a short time to be there.
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Sidelock
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Here is a link to a recent discussion on Ugartecheas shotgunworld.com/bbs
Such a long, long time to be gone, and a short time to be there.
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