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Thanks again Raimey:
I really appreciate the additional information you are providing.
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What a handsome treasure! Thank you for sharing it with us.


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That is neat,especially the case and sight.Could it have been brought home in a duffle bag?
great find Jim,always nice to see one of us find a winner like that !


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Thanks for all the nice comments.
BTW: As I stated earlier; Everytime I look at this rifle I find something new. Both sights have a dial gauge built into them which allows you to change the size of the peep hole apeture at will.
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Below is the info supplied to me:

"This thing is named a Sperberroehrchen. Now, a roehrchen is a small tube, while a Sperber is a rueopean sparrowhawk. Either this attachment was named for the keen eyesight of this bird (there was also an Adlerauge = eagle eye attachment for a front sight tunnel), or the inventor's name was "Sperber"? I don't know. In German target competition scopes were not allowed, but elderly or shooters with defective eyesight could use "optical aiming aids", i.e. lenses attached to their sights. So someone designed such devices which also provided some magnification, but stayed barely within rules. Postwar, even some tiny "non-scopes" like the Hensoldt Diapi (see GGCA bulletin #35, page 6) were made for this purpose."

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Question to all:
I have been unsuccessfully trying to find some professionally loaded ammo for this Schuetzen in 8.15x46R or as an alternative some new reloadable brass.
I have tried RWS which has loaded this caliber at times to no avail to stockers such as Kittery Trading Company and Huntingtons.
None of these have any cartridges or reloadable brass at this time. I do NOT want to use resized 30/30 cartridges such as are available from Buffalo but will as a last resort.
Anyone have any other ideas or potential sources?
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Jim:
What kind of numbers are you looking for, i.e., how many do you need to get you started? Also what did the bore slug? I may have a handful of Kupfer-Teilmantel-Geschoß but the bullet mass is 9.8 grams. In the short term if you are going to shoot a good bit I think you'll need to embrace the 30/30 idea.

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Loaded ammo
http://www.buffaloarms.com/browse.cfm/4,4103.html

Brass
http://www.buffaloarms.com/browse.cfm/4,793.html

RCBS makes the dies, if you can find them.

Loading information is available from Quickload.

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Raimy and Pete:
Thanks for the information. My interest in shooting the rifle at this time is really from a curiousity perspective. Being an amateur historian I often wonder what it was like to experience some of the passtimes that have either gone by the wayside or become of interest to only a small group.
Schuetzfests were enorminously popular in prewar Germany as sporting activities and to some extent here as well.
Keeping this in mind I'm looking to acquire enough ammunition,which I would expect to be a very small amount, to satisfy my curiousity and see what develops from there.
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Jim,

Such a cool rifle & accessories, I couldn't stand to sit back any longer and have to throw out an offer. A while back I purchased 3 boxes of RWS 8.15x46R Brass, it is new & has never been loaded. I to one day hope to own a nice Schutzen rifle & that's why I purchased the brass, but I can't stand to see you getting held up. I would be willing to trade/barter/sell a box of it if it would help get you going. I have a few German guns that I collect & I am always trying to scrounge up original ammo or components for them. If interested PM me & let's see what we can workout to help get you shooting & reporting back here.

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