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20 = H. Scheiring( Düsel earlier)
21 = Johann Fanzoj
22 = Josef Hambrusch
23 = Karl Hauptmann
24 = Josef Just
25 = Josef/Martin Kruschitz - Retired
26 = Jakob Koschat - Retired
27 = Simon Kalischnig - Retired
28 = Peter Mischitz - Retired
29 = Josef Mischitz - Retired
30 = Josef Orasche
31 = Michael Pegam - Retired
32 = Anton Sodia - Retired
33 = Franz Sodia - Retired
34 = Johann Sigott - Retired
35 = Walter Outschar
36 = Wincenz Urbas - Retired
37 = Benedikt Winkler
38 = Master Gunmakers Guild - Genossenschaft der Büchsenmachermeister
39 = Gunmakers(Technical/Trade) School - Fachschule für Handfeuerwaffen
40 = Ludwig Borownik
41 = Johann Michelitsch
42 = Josef Winkler - Retired
43 = Thomas Kulnig - Retired
44 = Walter Gratzer - Retired
45 = Erich Achatz - Retired
46 = Josef Schönlieb - Retired
47 = Lorenz Schaschl - Retired
48 = Johann Fanzoj
49 = Franz R. Schmid - Retired
50 = Franz Schmied - Retired
51 = Gottfried/Josef Juch
52 = Valentin Roesenzopf’s heirs and assigns
53 = Wilfried Glanznig
55 = Herbert Scheiring

Jani:

I'll have to look as I've tarried long in the early proof rules seeing that it appears that all tubes were proofed with a lead sphere possibly with a diameter of 0.5mm(max) less that the diameter of the tube. I wonder how they proofed choked tubes and if they did any pattern check.

ejsxs:

Can you email me a pic of your tube marks?

One note is that the craftsmen of Ferlach when sourced for price-point longarms would make price-point longarms and when they were sourced for bespoken longarms, they could provide a bespoken longarm. They also had a talent pool and could provide what the market would bear.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

Thanks to all for the fascinating information - very helpful. I will seek to take some better pictures in the next week or so and post up. Expanding the pictures doesn't provide a lot more clarity so back to the camera work. Will also try and get some choke/bore measurements on the barrels and try to use the gun before the end of the UK season on Feb 1st!

Here is my Ferlach, inherited from my dad. It is a Franz Sodia, and is relatively new, 1968 if I understand the stampings, although they are puzzling to me.





Up until reading these posts and examining the stamping, I had thought it was much older. Since it was my dad's, I will never part with it and it will pass on to my son when I do likewise.

The intertwined "EF" on the individual tubes is the preliminary mark for Ferlach. The "NP" sub "F" is the nitro proof at Ferlach and possibly final proofmark by later rules? The 2 headed eagle was either the mark of a final examination or a 3rd proof if required and should have a "1" on the breastplate. "216.68" would be the 216th example thru the Ferlach proofhouse in 1968. I would guess the "15087" to be the serial number. "12/70" is the bore & chamber length. And Boehler Blitz is of course the steel type and I think it was a rung below Antit.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

Thank you so much for your help, Raimey! I intend to take it over to the range for a couple of rounds when the weather abates. I am in Charlotte.

Good luck,

Bill

Jani - I hope your honest opinion is accurate therefore as I am placing the gun for sale with Bonhams this coming Dec sale! Will be interesting to see if there is any interest in this market as these guns tend to be quite a specialised area of the auction market in the UK.

(Moderators - please remove this if it is against forum rules as I am not trying to drum up a sale.)