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12 bore sidelock with clockhand 100538 with single crown on left tube and what looks to be a single "Caveman" with a "Club" on the right as well as left flat noting assembly by a mechanic, O.K. Barbarian, at the Sauer plant. H. Krieghoff, Lindner and others had marks that held similar positions, sometimes on the tubes and sometimes on the flats.

Sauer #34521 has the 2 crowns as well as Suhl at the rear of the right flat and Sauer on the rear of the left flat. It is a Model 5 with Eduard Kettner's name on the toplever.

Yes, we've got several hundred to go, if not an even thousand.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

My 1914 Sauer 16ga Serial 205682 is same as Geno's pic with one crown and two cavemen and caveman top of exposed lug and each barrel on top marked Fluss-Stahl.

Well, I missed the 'large' part of crowns. Mine just has small crowns over a 6.

Are the small crowns beside the Imperial Eagle on the tubes ahead of the flats? Would there be a "S" below them and is the 6 of the "6/31"?

Another observation is that an example in the assembled/completed/final state stamped with a "Crown" over "B" usually has a single Barbarian on one of the tubes and a single Barbarian on the flats.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

The 6/31 I believe to be the mfg. date.
On the left tube there is a small crown above a 6 beside the eagle. On the right tube there is a faint eagle; possible the crown and 6 didn't take. The faint eagle is about a third inch in front of the 6/31.

There also appears to be crowns over the U on the flats.

The "6" you note is actually a "S", which has a crown atop and couple with the Imperial Eagle notes preliminary proof with shot.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

You are correct; I had 6 on my mind.

Now it looks like 1900 was breaking year, when 2 crowns been replaced by 1 crown only.

Why is it just when you think its figured out something comes along and screws it up? Sauer 16ga #103850, 2crowns, 2 cavemen on flats, 1 on bottom of lug, Krupp barrels.

Jim A

James, did you note crowns on your gun located not side by side, but one is on the left and second is on the right side of flats?
This is very unusual and I think it can't break the list