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Stopped by Fieldsport in TC today to chat with Bryan about the sorry state of affairs in upland hunting in Michigan. That discussion ended quickly as a friend of Bryans walked in and started an emotional discussion regarding the wolves killing dogs in the UP. He lost one of his prized ES's males this October to the wolves. Barely missing them getting a pup that scampered back to its owner when the fatal confrontation occured. This gentleman related this is the 11th dog he knows of that was killed this fall in the Hiawatha National forest by wolves. One group a pack of beagles. Stories of this kind are common lore in my neck of the woods and this sh*t has got to stop. Just today, the DNR announced a $7000 reward for naming the guy who recently killed a wolf in the western UP. But will not give this guy a dime for the loss of his dog. Time to get those wolves the hell out of Michigan. Anyone with a contact or story of losing a dog to the wolves,please speak up. Bear hounds really get hammered by the wolves in the summer. Deer hunters are fed up with the decline of whitetails in the northern part of the state. Wolves in the UP and the coyotes in the northern lower. DNR bans hunting coyotes during deer season as not to have a wolf mistaken for a coyote if the season is left open. Anyone hunting whitetail in western Ontario probably has first hand knowledge of the carnage a pack can have on a deer herd in just one year. Is this an issue with anyone else on this forum?? Tree huggers need not respond, I don't want to hear it. Randy

I shoot coyotes in self defense whenever I can.

Our pioneer forefathers killed off the top end predators because they insisted on eating the livestock, terrorizing the women and killing the children. Now the Bambi crowd wants to bring them all back.

Wolves in Yellowstone; OK, but panthers where I live; no way...Geo

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Its crazy.
Even in Europian Union our friends from Baltic countries get licence from time to time to thin out wolf packs, when they begin to eat dogs and livestock.
This photo from Estonia 1 week ago.

Same thing is happening in Wisconsin. DNR will pay for a dog the 1st time in an area. Afterthat it is a known wolf area and you go at your own risk!! Many deer hunters this year saw more wolves than deer. Lowest deer kill in many years. Wolves are now in areas much further south than they ever thought.

Ever hear of the shoot and don't tell law.

According to what I've been told the biggest cause of the decline in the anteope population here in Arizona is coyotes.
The sutuation here is getting crazy as I saw a bobcat cross the road in a residential subdivision a couple of weeks ago. Our DNR has trapped multiple bears in residential areas in recent years.
Jim

we finally got a season on the buggers here .
Dispite the fact that the population has grown faster then expected and long ago serpased the numbers originally defined by the re introduction groups

myself i enjoy seeing them in the wild. we have always had wolves here . but the numbers have always been so very low that you might only get to see one once or twice in a life time .

not now though . since the re introduction , forced on us by animal rights groups , they are now multiplying like crazy .

the big game herds , long ago lost their natural instincts dictating how they deal this predator .

If you need information on dog attacks , livestock attack , look to Idaho , Montana and Wyoming .
There are a number of reports to the IDF&G of bear hound hunters , losing their dogs or a dog or two to wolves . These are small beagle type dogs either

The wolves re introduced to these areas have now spread to bordering state like Oregon and Washington . The movement of these animals shown by tracking devices .

The real funny thing is that these same groups who forced the re introduction don’t want them in their home states . But sure are willing to force them on others

I been out 3 times specifically for wolves .
Again I have a tag . But I have not been lucky enough to bet close enough for a shot . When I have , I have not been ready for the encounter . That will change though

We just had a cougar shot here in Iowa last week and you should hear the comments! I like the thought that there are large predators out in the woods but I would not want to lose a dog or livestock to them.They need to be controlled and it is too bad that there is not enough space for us all in this country but large predators and humans cannot exist without friction.The lion has lost more of its habitat than any other large mammal in the world. They used to exist,not only in Africa,but in asia and large areas of the middle east. People just will not tolerate predators, no matter how beautiful or awe inspiring, when they munch on the kids or the pets.