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I purchased a beater 12ga M51 Husqvarna from Ken for this project.
http://www.kebcollc.com/

RD Show, a member here, did the actual conversion.








The scope is Redfield Widefield 2-7 that I purchased unused.



4 shots during the barrel regulation.



Unfortunately, during the conversion Rich found the stock was cracked:



So, I sent the gun off to Dan May to be restocked. Here is the result.







Dan has more pictures up on his website:
http://www.classicgunstocks.com/Husqvarna_45-70.html

Next stop is the range, then on for some Russian boar.

Pete

Pete what did the conversion sans stock cost if you don't mind? I have just bought a cape gun that I want to convert to double rifle. Sauer cape gun in 16ga and 11mm.

Shotgun barrel is too thin. I only paid $200 for it. With the sights already on the rib it should lessen the work.

Very attractive and superbly accurate. You must have great eyesight to get groups from iron sights like that one.

Me, I would have used the scope.

Me, I would have used the scope.

That was RD Show shooting with iron sights, not me. I prefer a scope.

Well, the costs..... I paid Ken $250 for the gun. I was going to simply use the barrels, as I have M51 12ga. However, only a 3 year difference according to the serial number list and there was no way that the barrels would interchange. I don't remember the exact price of the conversion, but I believe it was around $1,300 or so. I am not sure if Rich is still working on guns.

Really think hard about doing any conversion. I am still not sure if I would do it again. Dan's stock really helps the gun. Rich and I spoke for hours about the proper choice. I really like the 45-70, so it was matter of finding a proper loading.

Pete

Anyone know of someone that does this? I need contact info. I'd have paid the $1300.

Pete, are you planning to fill in the shimmed areas on the through lug for better accuracy?

The stock looks great Pete but i believe that particular group was shot using the scope thanks again. Rich

Rich, thanks I assumed the iron sights. My mistake. I am glad you approve the stock. It will be heading to Michigan soon. I want to see how one of Ted Nugent's boars like it.

Bill, why fix it if it's not broke? I am more than happy with accuracy as it stands.

Pete

The areas on the underlugs were tig welded and and put back on face. Rich

Rich did you receive my PM?

Rich, are you still doing this kind of work?


thanks,

Rob

Mike, I sent you a email.

Rob, I have become diabled, Lost partial use of my right hand and have had several opperations, Time will determine if i get back into building again.

For those interested http://static.pbsrc.com/flash/rss_slides...show%2Ffeed.rss

Regards Rich

There is one other gunsmith who was doing conversions. Haven't spoken to him in over a year.

Robert Hynden
roberthynden@yahoo.com

Pete

Mike brought up having a cape gun converted. Can this be done to just the shotgun barrel? Who and how much would something like that cost?

Mike the problem with converting a cape gun is the different size in the barrels at the chamber area. They can not be sleeved. The left barrel can be removed from the underlugs and a new barrel installed, however sometimes the balls on the standing breech can be different, also the location of the firing pins can be different. You would also need new ribs, sights, forearm, and then the question is can you get a reamer without having a custom one ground these are just a few of the things that would make it costly. Also sometimes the ribs are brazed instead of soldered. Enjoy your cape gun and persue other avenues. Regards Rich

Thanks for the info Rich and best wishes for your recovery.

Rob

Rich,
I will be happy to get in line for one of those conversions.I am new to the link, and Have been thinking about obtaining a double for a while, and could not find anyone able or realistic in price to do the work.Thanks, FredW

Wow - that came up great. I hadn't considered cutting a thread like that into the breech of the gun. I was going to braise the transition/interference fit tube to the inside of the barrel. But this has given me something to think about. Could use a meatier barrel and nitro loads as opposed to black powder. mmmmmm

Roy,

While this is technically sleeving, it follows Pieper's monobloc patent. Of course you don't end up with a monobloc... The advantage, as you have recognized, is increased strength in the chamber area. Like your Greener, the Husqvarna has a greener cross bolt, which gives me some comfort.

Rich and I went round for weeks about the cartridge. I finally decided after a long call to IMR powders. I use 3031 in other guns, so I always have a supply around.

The final load develops a bit more pressure than the 45-70 trapdoor load, but does not have the recoil of an all out 45-70 load. It is very close to the handloads I use in my 45-70 Marlin lever action. So in effect, when I load for 1, I can use the loads in either gun. Something I like.

The 45-70 is easy to reload here. Components are plentiful and inexpensive. The large caliber makes for a great boar gun. Solid hit to the lungs and they drop. In a couple of years, I will have enough points for a Wisconsin black bear license. The double gun will get a work out on that hunt.

Pete

I am looking for Mr.Show or someone to do an double barrel 12ga. sluggun,can anyone help me?If so would they please post.

Try Del Whitman, 231.275.0140. Del did double rifle barrel regulation at Rigby, in California when he worked there and has done at least one set of barrels I know of, for a Lefever action, in 45-70.

Hello Mr.Snow:

That was great work! Thanks for the slide show.

Where in Pa. do you reside?

Speedy recovery,

Franchi