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#162240 - 09/27/09 03:34 PM W & C Scott 10 Gauge question (PICTURES ADDED)
ROMAC Offline
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Registered: 09/19/09
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Loc: South Eastern PA
I have my eye on a 1880's vintage W & C Scott 10 Gauge with 2 7/8 chambers. Serial in the 44,000 range. Heavy damascas barrels in great shape. No premier but does have delicate scroll engraving on the sides. What is a ballpark figure for one of these? I'd hate to lose by taking too long to think about it.

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#162243 - 09/27/09 04:02 PM Re: W & C Scott 10 Gauge question [Re: ROMAC]
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ROMAC: Do you know the weight of the gun? I think the lighter upland guns (7-8 lbs.) tend to command highter prices than the heavier and more common fowlers (8.5 lbs. and up), all other things being equal. Barrels in good shape are a huge plus, but condition can be deceiving and I'd want to be sure a qualified smith could look over the gun before I shot it. Other factors like condition of the wood and configuration of the stock will also affect value. I think most here will agree that we need more information before we can narrow down a price estimate ... could be anywhere from maybe $1000 to $4000, depending on lots of factors. The more data you can share, the more help we'll be able to offer. Good luck. TT
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#162246 - 09/27/09 04:42 PM Re: W & C Scott 10 Gauge question [Re: Two Triggers]
ROMAC Offline
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What I Can remember is this: Heavy browned damascas barrels, about 31 1/2 inches, prince of whales grip, no chips or cracks. Barrels just about perfect inside and out. No pitting what so ever. "Not for Ball" stamped on the underside of each barrel, plus a lot of proof marks that I'd need reference material to know what they mean. Maybe a closet queen for the last 100 years or so, who knows.

I'll try to get more information this week.


Edited by ROMAC (09/30/09 01:32 PM)

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#162249 - 09/27/09 06:07 PM Re: W & C Scott 10 Gauge question [Re: ROMAC]
ROMAC Offline
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Registered: 09/19/09
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Loc: South Eastern PA
It looks a lot like Shelby78's in the attached thread. I hope this helps.

http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbt...;gonew=1#UNREAD

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#162250 - 09/27/09 06:12 PM Re: W & C Scott 10 Gauge question [Re: ROMAC]
Geo. Newbern Offline
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Although the serial number list on this site puts the gun at 1889 manufacture, the 'not for ball' stamp places it 1887 or earlier. I'm always leery of perfect barrels on old guns...they're usually honed out, so check the minimum barrel thickness even though they look perfect. Good luck on the purchase...Geo

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#162252 - 09/27/09 06:55 PM Re: W & C Scott 10 Gauge question [Re: Geo. Newbern]
ROMAC Offline
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Registered: 09/19/09
Posts: 418
Loc: South Eastern PA
Not perfect in the sense that they look new. Perfect in the sense that they look great for their age and "age appropriate", but in exceedingly nice condition. Perfect as in unmessed with. As a newbie to this site, I'll have to get used to the descriptive language that is customary.


Edited by ROMAC (09/27/09 10:01 PM)

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#162400 - 09/29/09 12:41 PM Re: W & C Scott 10 Gauge question [Re: ROMAC]
ROMAC Offline
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I made a call to clarify the notes that I made from memory. It turns out Geo. Newbern's knowledge was sharper than my memory.

The actual serial number is 404XX, not 44XXX putting the date of maunfacture at 1886, which goes along with having "Not for Ball" stamped under the barrels.

The top of the rib has W & C Scott & Son Makers and Patentees, London on it. It's Prince of Wales grip has a silver oval or sheild on the bottom of the wrist.

I made a vebal offer which the shop is running by the consignee, we'll see what happens.

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#162416 - 09/29/09 04:19 PM Re: W & C Scott 10 Gauge question [Re: ROMAC]
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ROMAC:

FWIW, I picked up a 10 gauge I. Hollis hammer gun that is a near perfect copy of the one in the thread you referenced, save for a slightly different engraving pattern (dogs and birds as well as fine scroll) at a local gun shop in the last 6 months. Near perfect browning and wood finish, and about 30-35% case colors. Dated from the same era as the one you are looking at. I'm almost positive it was a W.C. Scott, either finished by Hollis or simply marked with his name. Mine was priced at $1500 and I got it for substantially less.

Very nice guns, a bit heavy as a game gun at 8 pounds 4 ounces, but a quite satisfactory waterfowler, albeit expensive to shoot, with RST's Nice Shot 2-7/8 inch shells.

Rem

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#162900 - 10/03/09 06:49 AM Re: W & C Scott 10 Gauge question [Re: Remington40x]
ROMAC Offline
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Registered: 09/19/09
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My offer was accepted, It may be possible to pick it up today. My schedule is tight so we will have to see what happens.

If I get it, I'll post some pictures and I'm sure I'll have lots of questions.

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#162913 - 10/03/09 10:09 AM Re: W & C Scott 10 Gauge question [Re: ROMAC]
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Im anxious to see it.
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