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Randy, saw your post over on the L.C. site. In my opinion it looks to be a factory replacement set. The numbers look the same. It doesn't look like the old numbers were ground off and new ones put there. Jim had replied back that this gun was made in early 1916. Maybe something happened to the other barrels. In sending guns back to the factory for new barrels, they were half the cost of the gun, and I'm sure this stayed that way until Hunter Arms was bought out in 1945. These guns, both Specialty and Ideal were still made and so the for-ends could be ordered also. The difference in the two for-ends would be the checkering, the Specialty should have 20 lpi and the Ideal should have 18 lpi., both would have the banjo style release. If yours has the rectangular release, then it was made/replaced in 1939 when Hunter changed designs over.
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Appears done after 1926, i.e....two screws in the forend iron (later style)....and forend iron pins instead of screws (cocking section-also later style)....as mentioned above, probably a factory re-barrel....since all the numbers match and fit is most likely perfect....on face etc....
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David, Thanks for your reply. The release plate on the forearm is rectangular as you mentioned. The forearm spring has a tapered point to fit into the forearm lug on the barrel. Unlike the flat style of the early models. Did this change have a specific year of change. Also, the forearm is a heftier style and the muzzle end of the forearm has a radiused indent for your finger to remove the forearm. Forearm checkering is not as tight as the pistol grip. Haven't made a count on the lines. Drew mentioned a cost consideration might have come into play on the replacement barrel. Was there a significant cost or quality difference between the Specialty Nitro steel and Ideal London steel barrels? Randy
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Randy, the J spring might have changed a little, but since your replacement forend does have the rectangular release, then you can be sure it was made in 1939 or later. Drew is right about the cost, in a 1939 catalog, standard two trigger Ideal Grade was $60.25, so a set of extra barrels were $30.00. Two trigger Specialty Grade was $100.00, extra set of barrels $50.00. In a 1948 Repair Catalog for the L.C. Smith Gun Co. a set of extra barrels were $64.50 and a Specialty was $100.00. Forend wood fitted, $10.50 and $15.50.
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