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If a case colored reciever (on an Ithaca 4E in particular) has been blued can the bluing be removed and the case colors restored?

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1) After the case colors are back on should I expect the engraving to be severely degraded

2) How are case colors put on?

3) How is bluing removed from engraved receivers? (I have read that Heinz Ketchup is wicked on blued barrels!)

4) What makes the case colors go away? Routine cleaning? Exposure to air? Combination of both?

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If someone polished the receiver then there is a good chance some of the engraving is not "sharp"
1&2)In order to have the gun re-cased means having the receiver annealed to take the case-hardening out, then it might have to be re-engraved and then re-case hardened/case colored. If not done right receiver could warp.
3/ not sure
4) mainly handling, and what you said.


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Bushmaster,

To answer #3... the annealing( if properly done) will remove the bluing and leave you with a soft bright surface

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Case color is not "put on". It is a by product of case hardening steel. The parts are packed in charcoal and heated, then quenched. The trick is knowing the proper heat and time. There is always the danger that in the process, the metal can warp. There are several firms that are very good at doing this restoration. They can prep the metal for you.

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"Case color is not "put on". It is a by product of case hardening steel. The parts are packed in charcoal and heated, then quenched. The trick is knowing the proper heat and time. There is always the danger that in the process, the metal can warp. There are several firms that are very good at doing this restoration. They can prep the metal for you."

Will the "preping" remove the engraving?

During regular factory engraving/hardening, which comes first?

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I would call John Gillette at Classic Arms (708-367-1620) and discuss the process. If the receiver is/was polished it may need to be chased to make the engraving sharp. Mr. Ken Hurst should be along and he is an expert in the engraving and case hardening operation.

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This Husqvarna was done by John Gillette:









The preparation consists of cleaning the metal. A 4E should be left to a professional. As CJO has stated, the case tempering will remove the blue. Call John and discuss it all with him.

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During regular factory engraving/hardening, which comes first?

Due to the nature of engraving it must be done before case coloring.
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When I got this Marlin 32-40 it was a high gloss blue..I then annealed and re-cased it after about two days of hand work and rust blued the barrel and mag tube, etc.(which is the way this gun left the factory in 1906).....

To answer your question, yes, it can be re-cased..............your engraving should be o.k. if not already damaged by the polishing efforts of whoever blued your gun........

As already mentioned, Ken Hurst could "freshen" your engraving, but best to call him he is the engraving "expert"......he includes his phone number with his signature line on this site..........

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looks like pa24 is shillin for ol ken again...are there not forum rules against this unprofessional conduct?


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