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Ed, I don't see anything in Doug's (PA24) post "unprofessional".
I hope your not the same one that uses a torch for his case colors, as that is unprofessional.
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If a case colored reciever (on an Ithaca 4E in particular) has been blued can the bluing be removed and the case colors restored? Yes
More related questions:
1) After the case colors are back on should I expect the engraving to be severely degraded. The engraving should come back in basically the same condition as it is currently in. Professional prep will remove very little metal unles you have some pits or deep scratches.
2) How are case colors put on? They are a very thin surface coating of "oxides and other stuff" that form during quench from case hardening temperature.
3)How is bluing removed from engraved receivers? (I have read that Heinz Ketchup is wicked on blued barrels!) Abrasively, chemically, or with heat. Annealing temperature will take care of the blue , as CJ pointed out.
4) What makes the case colors go away? Exposure to abrasion, even light abrasion. The film is thin and low strength. Routine cleaning? If the cleaning cloth has any abrasive on it, yes. Exposure to air? No, not at all. Combination of both?
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For one of the best descriptions of what is going on: http://www.doublegunshop.com/doublegunjournal_v7i4_9.htmThis is an article originally published in the Double Gun Journal by Oscar Gaddy. He has SEM images of the surface which results in the colors. Traditionally, after the surface is re cased, it is coated with a light film of lacquer to protect it. Pete
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looks like pa24 is shillin for ol ken again...are there not forum rules against this unprofessional conduct? Why would anyone have to "shill" for Ken Hurst? The membership here is well aware of his expert engraving skills. Jim
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Bushmaster, I happen to be restoring a 4e currently below are pics of before polished and after.    Hope this helps Mark
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Not hardly. I mean there are "not hardly any rules against shillin for ol ken". Is that a clear enough reply? I think Dave allows us to recommend and crucify anyone in the business if we stick to facts and are polite about it. So far, everyone has been polite and I am drooling about the possibility of getting my Model 51 Husky to look like the one in the pictures.
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Pete, can we hear more about your Husky Model 51 project? Did anyone freshen up the wood while John was doing the case color? Did John do all the disassembling and prep work or did you send him the disassembled gun?
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Pete thats COOOOOOOL! Who did the Barrel work? Is that group with both barrels? Tell us more!
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Thanks Mark. I do not want to hi-jack the thread. The work was done by a member here, RD Show. The group is 4 shots, 2 from each barrel. No pretense on my part, it is a boar / deer rifle, nothing more.  Pete
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