doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion Double Rifles, Paradox Guns & Gauge Rifles @ doublegunshop.com I think this one will be a keeper.

I received my made by Simson for Daw, long range double .405 on Friday. Looks nice, now I have to wait until my brother arrives on the first to shoot it. He's bringing my ammo up from the lower 48. I wonder how many moose I can hit at 500 yards?

Mike I love it! Where did you find it? and why can't I be so lucky.

Jerry

If Elmer Keith could hit an elksized rock at 600 yards with a revolver,surely you can pot a real elk at 500 with a .405WCF !!

With my old eyes, iorn sights are a real blur. Jerry I bid on guns and import them for resale and every once in a while I keep one.

I finally got around to shooting this one today. 50yd dead level horizontal but 12", yes 12" apart with Hornady ammo. 100yds was still dead on horizontal but about 20" apart. I see from the factory ads that both the Hornady and Winchester ammo use the 300 grain bullet at 2200 fps. As the photos show this gun is marked long range and has the sights to 500yds. Is it possible that the load for this rifle needs more velocity? That's the only way I know to get each barrel group closer. Anyone have any ideas?

Mike,
More "fuel".
Bob Jurewicz

Mike:

I owned a Belgian .405 DR for a while and I never did get it regulated. The rifle was of a quality level similar to yours. I believe the name on it was G. Schraff, but I'd have to check my records to be sure.

This was before the recent availability of new factory .405 Winchester ammo. I bought a box and a half of original .405 ammo at some ridiculous price and ended up with two beautiful 2 inch groups on each target at 100 yards. Unfortunately they were spaced 18 inches apart.

I spent more than two years working up handloads of almost every stripe. Nothing ever got the two barrels closer together than 8 inches and I shudder to think how hot those loads must have been.

To my knowledge, there was never a factory .405 load of any bullet weight but the 300 grain. Hawk Precision (or whatever they are called today) was offering lighter bullets (250 or 270 grain - can't remember which) at the time, but I didn't get any better results with the Hawks than I did with the other stuff I was handloading. I finally gave up on the rifle, consigned it to Pete Harvey, who told me it went to Alaska as a carry rifle for some guy who liked to salmon fish in places where a lot of his fellow fishermen wear heavy brown fur coats even in the summer heat.

Although it's counterintuitive, I've had some success with a light .250-3000 double rifle moving the barrels together using 120 grain bullets at about 2400 fps in place of the factory 87 grain loads at 3000 fps for which the rifle is proofed. I have no idea why this worked, as it's contrary to everything I've been told about regulating a DR. Even so, you might try slowing the 300 grain bullets down to 2000 fps or so and see if it changes anything.

Let us know how you make out.

Rem