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Originally Posted By: Daryl Hallquist
What number does your forend wood have ? Some odd and put together guns can be found in the 38,000 to 50,000 range.

The number on the wood is 151315.

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Well, that's a Batavia Special serial number. A Batavia Special would have [censored]-Tensile steel barrels. All Bakers I have seen have the serial number stamped on the inside of the lock plate. You might look there for a number between 150,000 and 170,000.

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Originally Posted By: Daryl Hallquist
Well, that's a Batavia Special serial number. A Batavia Special would have [censored]-Tensile steel barrels. All Bakers I have seen have the serial number stamped on the inside of the lock plate. You might look there for a number between 150,000 and 170,000.


It does have said barrels. I will have to remove the locks and have a look.


Edit--I removed the locks and had a look. They do have the same number on the inside as on the forend wood--151315.

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I know this post is getting a little old, but need to jump in here and request (beg is more like it) some information on my Tryon's Damascus. I am trying to date the gun and the serial number (all the parts are stamped, not the wood) is 45637. The barrels are Damascus (obviously) and quite nice (or will be when I finish refinishing). Just wondering if one of you more knowledgeable chaps could help me date it using the serial number.


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Although your gun is not in the normal Batavia Damascus serial no. range, it was made between 1915 and 1919. During that period Baker seemed to cast aside the normal numbering systems and most all guns were serial numbered between 38,000 and 51,000, with all models being in that range.

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Daryl, Thanks. While sanding on them a while ago. I noticed some numbering on the underside of the barrels. On the fore-end lug, is D 3 H. The barrels each have 3 H stamped into them. Also there is some smaller stamping on the barrels of ADH on each barrel. Just my curiosity, wondering if these are some sort of identification of the Damascus? Do they indicate American manufacture? No other marks (stamps) on them. Any details appreciated. Curious Johnny.


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ADH is the barrel maker Arthur-Delvaux-Heuse. Also found on Lefever and Syracuse Arms.
http://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=17yCstxftvWXpFdSru4JKbRIE1-Q8OqXgJs66tEXntqw

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Thanks Drew, That is exactly it. Here is photo of what the pattern is for the barrels.

http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww28/RoadFat/FultonSyracuseBarrelFitment/clipdamascus.jpg


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There was a really nice Montgomery Wards marked Baker hammerless boxlock at auction a while back I almost bid on. Interesting how many major makers had hardware stores brand and market their guns for them back then.

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I have one of those "Monkey Ward"Bakers.Mine has 32" bbls choked full and fuller,a 3 position safety, a fair amount of engraving and a pigeon engraved on the bottom of the action.Damascus bbls that are around.075" thick at the muzzle!


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