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My 20-gauge 4E is the only NID I've encountered with that style grip. Capped full pistol grips are the NID norm, with a very few straights.

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Here is a straight hand Crass gun. I thought I had a Flues but I was thinking this gun.

And here is an NID straight hand stock.

And here is the recent manufactured pad fitted and by its self. You can compare it to Researcher's photos

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Very nice guns. Thanks for sharing.

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From my limited experience, it seems the company changed the "pat'd Pending" to "Patented" when they changed the backing from black hard rubber to aluminium circa 1950.

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FWIW the Summer 1950 Illustrated Price list is the first thing I have that shows the new Aluminium base pad, but the September 23, 1950, Dealer's Quotations still shows the old black base pad, probably an oversight by someone in the office.

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Walt- I found what I think is a NID 12- field grade 30" DT ejector gun- sn is 425xxx and it has the 'snail ears' cocking indicators- mint shape, original stock and forearm and finish, choked no. 2 right and no. 3 left-ejectors are "snappy" too- same "Mom and Pop" gun shop where I bought a LeFever 12 Grade G-they have it described as a Manier model however-$750 OTD--what is the serial number range for the Manier Ithacas? Thanks!!


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Minier models fall in the 112000-160000 range...425XXX would be a real early NID and well worth the $750 in the condition you describe with ejectors.......


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Did anyone else put such nice wood on similarly priced guns on such a regular basis in that time frame?

My take is that it seems Ithaca had a SOP of using wood a step or two above the rest, per price point for quite a stretch of time?

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Thanks Gun Nut- I re-read the McIntosh book- he mentions a possible barrel lug radius problem on the early NID Ithacas- that
may have caused some of them to open when fired- so I will see if I can test fire it with light AA factory loads and see. This gun doesn't appear to have been reblued or refinished, and is in very good condition- may have been stored away and not shot or used for hunting very often- If I buy it it will be my first Ithaca double- we shall see!


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I agree 775, I think that Ithaca definatly used some wood that was a notch or 2 above the compatition a great deal of the time.

Tim

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