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Is it case colour hardened? If so, probably the old method of taking each finished component & putting it thru the process along with animal hides, hooves, urine: all the stuff of which jello is composed? Nah, I don't have any idea yet. Is there an image on this thread? Daly Gun Nr. 27:    A.S. on crossbar  Encircled PB I'm beginning to lean toward the possibility that the Scott serialized versions pre-date the Daly serialized. But still it would put Nr. 27 in the early to mid 1870s. Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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Too, I wonder if the difference between the tubeset number & the serial number notes the quantity made before sequential serialization? Also, did the sequential serialization commence with H.A. Lindner in 1874? Or did H.A. Lindner carry forward a sequence that commenced prior to his hanging of his gunmaking shingle? If the above is indeed Nr. 27, and with the absence of Crown over Crossed Pistols, I'd say the latter.
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I can't tell if it was colored or not. It's got to be one of the three processes, Blacked/Blued, Color Hardened, or Nitre Blued.
I was hoping someone would know, I understand that Winchester color hardened some of their buttplates, I'd like to know if it was used on shotguns. my Remington 1889 has a steel buttplate, but all color is gone on it as well.
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Ken:
I'd look toward the Scott sporting weapons of the time. Did they have butt-plates? If so, how did they prepare them externally. It is possible that the butt-plate was in the Gesteck/parts kit Daly purchased from Scott.
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Hermann Boker & Co. also imported/peddled Rail for short tracks and ran a Steel department. Their source was Funke & Elbers / Westphalian Wagon Company / Steelworks of Hagan or forges of Hagan Grünthal. F.A. Boker, Carl F. Boker(younger brother of Hermann Boker) & he is the steel magnet, Albert H. Funke, Hermann Funke and Hermann Funke, Jr. all were in upper management of the Hermann Boker & Co., which was dissolved in 1899. I am all but convinced that at least one Boker married a Funke or vice versa. But if Boker had those connections, just ponder what parts of the world were not within Schoverling, Daly & Gale's reach.
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Ken:
I'd look toward the Scott sporting weapons of the time. Did they have butt-plates? If so, how did they prepare them externally. It is possible that the butt-plate was in the Gesteck/parts kit Daly purchased from Scott.
rse Raimey, remember my Daly #15,251 has the serial number stamped on the steel buttplate, and all other parts, including the locks. The only exception is it is hand engraved on the tang of the trigger guard. Incidentally, since the same serial number is stamped on the flat of the barrels wouldn't that indicate the barrels were stitched together by Scott? If so, Daly must have been really experimenting by having Scott braze the ribs on mine rather than solder them. Do any of the other 15,000 series have brazed ribs?
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I do Joe, but I think Ken's was made later than yours and did not have Scott's serial number sequence. What's the exterior/surface of the steel buttplate on it & your similar Scott?
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The buttplate is very old and seemingly original nickel plated as is the triggerguard and triggerplate. Engraving underneath is still very sharp and clean which leads me to believe original. 
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Raimey & Joe,
That's a new wrinkle. So, four possible methods to color the buttplate, now that plating is added. Joe, how is your other Daly buttplate colored? Can you tell?
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Ken, not sure I understand the question. It is nickel plated. Sorry I do not have a current photo and its not available for photo right now.
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