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Wundhamer is an uncommon name, gunsmith or not. Ried (NOT Reid!) is name of several smaller places in Austria and Germany (also Switzerland, Netherlands). The only reference I could find connecting name Wundhamer to place Ried gives Ried im Innkreis, a small town in Upper Austria, near the German/Bavarian border.
I could find references to two guns by "Wundhamer in Ried" in Europe (both in Austria/Germany). Both hammer shotguns, one pinfire, one (early) centerfire. The later was reportedly marked ED Wundhamer, probably Eduard. BTW, the pinfire double was recently offered for sale in Wels, an Austrian town not far from Ried im Innkreis.
So for the time being I see it like this:
Eduard Wundhamer, Ried im Innkreis (Austria), active circa 1870-1900. He was probably more of a local gunsmith/retailer rather than a "proper" gunmaker.
With kind regards,
Jani

Montenegrin,
I'd like to tell you, on behalf of our extended "family" here, how truly blessed we are to have a fount of information, such as you, in our midst!

Perry G,

No problem. 2 choices, here is the FAQ for posting images here:
http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=6339&page=1#Post6339

Or you can send them to me and I will post for you.

Jani,

Nice research!

Pete

I found this. Need some one to translate.
http://beretta.at/site/product/CB_Product_ShowAll.php?frame=framecontent&group_id=3

Hersteller auf der Laufschiene in Silber eingelegt, geschwungener Abzugbügel mit geschnörkeltem Hornfortsatz.

Guter Allgemeinzustand, für Dekozweke geeignet



Pete

Pete,
This is the gun I was refering to above as a pinfire Wundhamer double, offered recently in Wels (by Wertgarner gunshop).
The only significant part to be translated is: Maker is inlaid in silver on the barrel rib.
With kind regards,
Jani

Montnegrin, I want to thank you for your input! I have sent pics and hopefully they will be posted soon. This should be helpfull to everyone who is trying to help ! Once again, Thank you for your help, and thanks to everyone else that has contributed. A true bunch of "Good People"

Warm Regards,

Perry

Perry G,

Here are your pictures. In the 4th picture there is a Belgian proof on the barrel with 16.2.





















Pete

Perry G,

I do not see an EB anywhere. Did I miss something?

That proof mark is an EL. It is a provisional proof that has been in use since 1852.

Pete

Pete, Thank You Very Much!!! I truly appreciate your help. One thing i've noticed, everybody on this site seems to be "Good People" As far as the EB it is on the underside of the barrels and didn't show up very well. It is clearly an EB in the circle. I wish I knew more about guns but I don't. I don't even know if it's a shotgun or rifle. What guage/mm it is.From what i can tell by everyones posts, is that it dates back to around the mid 1800's. Any idea on the value, or anything else you can tell me.
Thanks again Pete,

Sincerely,

Perry

Where is the "EB" in relation to the "16.2" or "16.6" mm mark? The bore is 16 gauge seeing 16.6mm converts to 0.654" which is within the 16 gauge range. It has the Rigby style forend release, which is seen on some Viennesse makers like Franz Neuber. The mark of the "Crown" over inverted "crossed scepters" may be a maker's mark and there is another letter, say "P" on the right side. Just a guess, but I think it scepters are inverted to make it differ from the Birmingham Proofhouse mark? Using the town stamped on the tubes and locks along with the Rigby style forend release, it looks to be a Austrian longarm with Belgian sourced tubes probably from the 1880s seeing the Austro-Hungarian Empire adopted/passed rules of proof on June 23rd, 1891. It is devoid of those marks so it was made prior to 1891. Does it have rebounding hammers? They appear to rest on the strikers. Any marks on the standing breech or watertable/top of the receiver where the barrels mate?

Kind Regards,

Raimey
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