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Originally Posted By: creekrat
Lowell,

What exactly is this list? I'd like to see it.

Thaknd,


Jij


here is the plan;
THE FIVE YEAR PLAN:
1. National Licensing of all handgun purchases.
2. Licenses for Rifle and Shotgun owners.
3. State Licenses for ownership of firearms.
4. Arsenal Licenses (5 guns and 250 rounds of ammunition).
5. Arsenal License Fees (at least $300.00, with a cap of $1,000.00).
6. Limits on Arsenal Licensing (None in counties with populations of more than 200,000).
7. Requirement of Federally Approved Storage Safes for all guns.
8. Inspection License. (Gun safe licenses, yearly fee for spot inspections).
9. Ban on Manufacturing in counties with a population of more than 200,000.
10. Banning all military style firearms.
11. Banning Machine Gun Parts or parts which can be used in a Machine gun.
12. Banning the carrying a firearm anywhere but home or target range or in transit from one to the other.
13. Banning replacement parts (manufacturing, sale, possession, transfer, installation) except barrel, trigger group.
14. Elimination of the Curio Relic list.
15. Control of Ammunition belonging to Certain Surplus Firearms. (7.62×54R and .303).
16. Eventual Ban of Handgun Possession.
17. Banning of Any ammo that fits military guns (post 1945).
18. Banning of any quantity of smokeless powder or black powder which would constitute more than the equivalent of 100 rounds of ammunition.
19. Ban the possession of explosive powders of more than 1 kg. at any one time.
20. Banning of High Powered Ammo or Wounding ammo.
21. A National License for Ammunition.
22. Banning or strict licensing of all re-loading components.
23. National Registration of ammunition or ammo buyers.
24. Requirements of special storage safe for ammunition and licensing.
25. Restricting Gun Ranges to counties with populations less than 200,000.
26. Special Licensing of ranges.
27. Special Range Tax to visitors. ($85.00 per visit per person).
28. Waiting period for rentals on pistol ranges.
29. Banning Gun Shows.
30. Banning of military reenactments.
PLUS:
Ban of all clips holding over 6 bullets.
Elimination of the Dept. of Civilian Marksmanship.

Ban on all realistic replica and toy guns (including “air soft” and paintball).
The right of gun-violence victims to sue, with financial assistance from government programs, the gun manufacturers.
Taxes on ammo, dealers, guns, licenses to offset medical costs to society.
The eventual ban on all semi-automatics regardless of when made or caliber.


http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/10/16/gun-law-update-brady-backs-barack/#


Remember to thank those on here who voted for the "one" when it they start.


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There for all of you who wanted to know is the Socialists laundry list of "Sensible Gun Laws". You now have someone sitting in the White House who will sign any and all of this legislation. All you have to do is wait as it's surely coming.
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Dave, I don't remember the site, but I thought the break-open shotgun getting the green light might be of some interest here.
With states pushing for state's rights(21 now)is a good start of our showing of our discontent with the feds.
Atho' I've never owned a semi-auto anything, I'd be willing to go to the wall for the AR-15 owner.

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To the "Wall"- or perhaps "Balls to the Wall"?? Strongly said, Sir Lowell of the Glenn-in-Thorn. Does that mean you are putting poor old Jim Dumbo back to work for Remington, and those nice cushy "freebie" hunting trips he used to enjoy? The problemo here is that the new "Admin" considers ALL guns to be evil- Black being a given here. The only military based guns I own are:
Colt Combat Commander .45ACP (based of course on the timeless 1911 Browing design), a Star Gauged NM 1903 Springfield 30-06 mfg. 1938 that I bought at Camp Perry years ago.

Wonder if the legions of Garand owners will see a "loophole" in the Big 21 Hit List- magazine capacity limited to 6 rounds- But the Garand is NOT a magazine fed shoulder weapon, it is clip fed, and to be even more specific, a frangible of sorts clip-not the like links on a MG43 or a M-60 of course, so how about dat? In my state, if you deer hunt with a Garand, you have to use modified clips for 5 round max. capacity-as deer seldom return fire in the Northwoods, that's OK I guess, but if I had to use a Garand in a defense mode-I'd want the full 8 rd. clips. I still prefer a long extractor style BA, and with the Springfield I can recharge the magazine well with another round every time I cycle the bolt-

The AR-15 and its many clones-like a 12 gauge riot pump shotgun- has a "deadly" look I suppose, and ever since "Rambo" we have been inundated with all the para-military culture. You see it at gun shows and other venues- Truth be told, I am sure Jim Zumbo is probably an OK guy, but he sure gave the anti's a lot more help than he probably bargained for with his ill-chosen remarks about "Evil Black Rifles".. Cat is out of the bag now Lads--


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Over on the misfire forum John M has posted a link to an article by Nicholas Johnson that should, IMO, be required reading. It eloquently exposes the folly of Fudd-think, ie., the delusion that .gov will be sated when we pass in the black guns.

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Please read my earlier post on the cost of registration in Canada. Perhaps there is an accountant amongst those who view this web site who is capable of estimating the potential cost of implementation.I am sure the cost would be astronomical and would be sure to make at least some politicians reconsider the wisdom of even considering this programme, in particular under the present economic circumstances.


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Collective right versus individual rights; there's the rub. The most dangerous point of contention FOR the banning of individual ownership of firearms in this country was the argument presented that the Second Amendment is a collective right and not an individual right. The Federal Courts have dismissed this as, and I quote below,

“the Bill of Rights does not protect people, it protects ‘collective rights’ of states,” Korwin notes. That position had little to support it in the historical record, but was favored by people seeking to ban firearms from public hands. The “collective rights” theory, a recent creation, was dismissed with ridicule by the Court (equating it to Alice in Wonderland). The Amendment itself speaks of “the security of a free state,” and “the right of the people.”

Stating and equating their argument as "Alice in Wonderland Theory" Not only did the High Court disagree with the anti-gun theory and their rhetoric but in doing so the Court went out of their way to insult them. Ahhhh…… I Frickin love it!!!!!

Guys, our Founding Fathers and in their infinite wisdom set up a system of checks and balances unmatched in any other country LET IT WORK BECAUSE IT DOES WORK.

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Well, it has worked for the most part,but D. C. residents went a lot of years without rights you take for granted in Pennsylvania... even in spite of Gov. Rendells' efforts. Now we find ourselves in a situation where Obamas' Chicago Mafia is moving the Census Dep't. into the White House under the control of Raum Emmanuel. I can hardly wait to see the lines of congressional re-districting that will result. Then we have ACORN getting billions of dollars of so-called bailout money as payola for delivering past and future elections. My great but fading hope is that former Penna. Asst. Attorney General Phillip Berg is successful in getting the non U. S. citizen who is illegally occupying the White House removed and deported. See http://www.obamacrimes.com


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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Only "Evil Black Rifle" I own is a Marlin M783, bolt action 22 mag with "one of them thar black plastic stocks" on it. I don't know if it's as evil as they say, but when the Grandkids come over I chain it to a cement block..................just in case.

I don't reckon it matters what the antis come after first, it will be just the first step. And if you're willing to surrender one gun, or one kind, they'll just take 'em all anyway. I think it comes down to the old saying, "I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees". Each one of us has to make up his own mind.
God Bless America.

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Yea I wouldn't worry,after all the "community organizer in chief"
loves this county and its freedoms.........





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